I am flattered Project Unfair brought this up. And I want to be clear, John and I have NO illusions of Unfair being the Ultimate Pro Touring Car. It will be the fastest all around though! I have some ideas for the Ultimate "Pro Touring Car", but will save that for next time! i will say the focus will be on the "Touring" portion in a car that hauls ass.
I agree with what Todd is saying. I am not a "Street Fighter" guy at all. I have a street / drag car. And yes I can cruise it to Steak and Shake. Yes I have done the RTTHs 45 mile cruise 3 times WITH the Pro Touring cars. And hell yes, my knuckles are sore as hell from holding on!
In reference to what Todd says, I agree 100%. We WILL NOT give up comfort to achieve our goals. But Unfair WILL NOT be AS comfy as I have made many of my projects. Some where between II Much and EmtpyNest is a happy medium we can achieve without giving up our performance goals.
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A full cage or partial that compromises your comfort of makes it unsafe without a helmet We are working on some stuff on the cage to make it safer, keep your head away from it. We also will take full advantage of legal pin in bars where allowed. I HATE climbing over door bars!
No sound deadener to save weight(Rattles, overly noisy ride) Says the man with 3" dump exhaust! LOL! We will dynamat the floor, we are not worried about 72LBS weight only 8" Off the ground in the middle of the car. We actually like that idea. Moves the COG down. That is called good weight!
High spring rates to limit body roll(I went to coil overs and adjustable shocks to get rid of the leaf spring ride) My car rides so nice... We will use spring rates within a few LBS of yours. And a 3 link rides SO NICE, even better then a 4 link.
Simple functional systems of any car(door handles, hidden wiper motors, heater, stereo) Agreed. Wipers are mandatory, if John had a regret on II Much it was deleting the wipers. We are hiding the wiper motor, but I see no issue with that. I HATE no door handle cars! Heat, yes we need heat. You did not mention A/C (Clears throat). I feel A/C is a requirement also. Little know the fact. The shipping weight for a complete Vintage Air Gen IV system is 58LBS! that is a 58LBS weight penalty we will gladly take. Stereo, hell yes. We will have a removable system like John just had installed in his ZO6 that plays through 4 speakers through a high powered deck and has a amplified subwoofer and amp we can quick disconnect, remove for racing and still have tunes. So total weight for the stereo, about 15LB without the 100LB subwoofer. I liken this to removing the spare tire and tool box most do for racing.
Race belts(Will you really wear a 5 point harness on the street?) Actually, Yes. Sort of. I do wear 4 of the 5 belts on the street. I do admit no using the submarine belt on the street. but I find 4 point belts more comfortable then a 3 point belts.
Fixed back seats I am with you. We got to be able to recline on the street. And my racing position is much different then my cruising position. We have a plan to have both with a simple bracket we will bolt in the back rest to the cross bar to make the recliner fixed back at the track.
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