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Originally Posted by 6spdcamaro
Detroit speed is the best of the best. They win every single event that they attend... by a lot. Their test cars have seen 10's of thousands of miles on the street and track. The geometry, quality, customer service, and components from them are the best in the industry. It is a lot of money, but you get what you pay for.
They restricted themselves to utilizing stock spindles, stock pickup points and control arm lengths with exception to the "built in g-mod", which costs $18 on a stock sub. There is a lot of variables in an independent suspension, and these restrictions require that sacrifices be made somewhere. The Speedtech subframe is the "best" bang for your buck, but that is because it is based on a stock subframe, which really is the best for the money. I'm not trying to brainlessly bash speedtech, because they are a good company, with good products and service, it's just that too many people falsely think they are getting all the offerings of an aftermarket sub, for much less money.
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Not technically accurate. The geometry of a DSE based subframe is great; the product is great, the service is great. But the Speedtech frame with the ATS tall spindle will exceed the geometry available in both the DSE and AME frames by a good margin. The amount of negative camber gain per inch of suspension travel is possible to exceed even the most aggressive settings on either DSE or AME frames. Add in the revised bumpsteer, and amount of caster and the frame is just as good as any offering from the big name guys.
Regardless it all comes down to driver. Look at the One Lap Camaro with David Pozzi behind the wheel. It beat up and bested DSE framed cars many, many, times over; it was all done with a modified factory subframe and a tall spindle.
Tyler