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Originally Posted by city_ofthe_south
It's an old guy shooting stuff who doesn't claim to be an expert but has done one helluva lot of trigger pulling. He's got pictures and I don't, that's about all it's worth - it's pretty irrelevant otherwise . Either way, it doesn't change the effects of either cartridge. And I do have experience with all of the above, and agree fully with the old timer and his box 'o truth. I don't require him to be good with a computer, camera, or journalism, just see what happens when bullets hit things. It also doesn't change the fact that this stuff is over priced compared to other offerings that make a whole lot more sense.
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I've shot quite a bit - still shoot competitively, and don't agree with his conclusions at all. I think they're borderline dangerous. JMHO. I completely disagree with what is necessary in terms of penetration. Perhaps we simply have a difference of opinion as to what constitutes "home protection". I'm not interested in defending against armored SWAT teams or military counter-terrorist teams. I don't want "extra" penetration. I want to hit what's right in front of me, probably at a range of less than 20 feet (probably much less). Too many people think you need to penetrate WAY too much gelatin than I do for home defense. I'd love to see the data supporting needing 5" of penetration. Frankly, or the physics discussion of why you'd even want it.
I have issues with people wanting weapons for "home protection" that may often be more dangerous than not having one to begin with. Drywall doesn't stop much. BTW, .45 LC, loaded to within the SAAMI spec of 14000psi, can be an excellent self defense round.