Bob asked about pics of the TIG of the DSE panel... 'cause anybody can tack weld (true). I took one to send via text to my BIL (his car).... So just to show that yeah I can TIG -- doesn't make me a "welder" -- and I actually do this very seldom so a guy that does something every once in awhile - is never going to lay down the perfect little stacks of dimes that a guy that does this daily can do... but mine will 'hold'... The curve is easier to do in the "UP" position so the torch is being held upside-down and I'm adding fil from the top.