[SWAPMEETCRAZY]

^^^^^x2..........Could see my now 24 yr old was plenty smart for 4 year college but not patient --So we sat down after high school and discussed it--He had gotten the TOPS program grant (state money for top grads) so we decided a local trade school would work better for him.....stayed out 1st semester after H.S. and worked and then completed 2 years of trade school in plant processing (While working also) ...........Just got on permanent job in local polymer plant ....in 1 1/2 years will be fully vested at $33 hr. I'm like Greg ...U talk to them---then see if the plan works--they always stray ....but I consider it my job as father to steer him to a better situation so HE can make his future..NOT me give him everything ...nobody learns from that.......my 2 cents.....jim