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Old 12-09-2012, 09:07 PM
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Spending on homes, furniture, appliances, cars, groceries, dental braces, etc. is what creates jobs. Only a fool believes that supply creates demand. Demand is what makes the economy go, not supply - and demand is created by the 47%, not the 1%. The wealthy have prospered during this downturn, yet I don't see the economy recovering; perhaps that's because the top 1% or top 30% really aren't the economy. As difficult as it may be for a Fox News adherent to believe, it may be that everyone needs to do well for all of us to do well. More higher incomes for all will do a lot to increase tax revenues - but that would mean senior corporate executives being paid what they produce - like their employees - rather than what they can convince their cronies on the board compensation committees (with the implicit "you wash my back, I'll wash yours" agreement) they're worth.



If increased access to health care doesn't reduce costs, then I don't understand anything about the healthcare system. In California - as in the rest of the country - the single most expensive point of entry into the healthcare system is the ER. The fewer people whose only access to the healthcare system is the ER the better - and cheaper - for all of us. Obamacare is a big step in that direction. If you really want to reduce health care costs, eliminate the insurance companies and go to a single payer system. The 15% the healthcare companies can keep does nothing for health care and is entirely used for marketing and corporate profits.

Perhaps folks should educate themselves before pretending to have all the answers for the rest of us.
Mike first off thank you for actually forcing me to use a dictionary today. I looked up the word adherent. I watch fox and after about two weeks I disliked Obama a little more then I did before watching fox. Then I went to MSN and realized they hate anyone that has been successful so I stopped watching them. Then I went to CNN and realized there just idiots.

So in the end where do we get the "said education" you are talking about?

I can tell you first hand that the ER isn't the most expensive place in a hospital. I just finished 4 rounds of FullFox Chemo at $9,000 a treatment and have switched to the Oral version of Xeloda Chemo at $4,000 a treatment which doesn't include blood work, labs and meeting with my Oncologist.

So I a living the medical nightmare right now and I am pretty confident that Obama Care isn't going to do anything for all of the bills coming in my direction.

The good news is I do have insurance at just shy of $26,000.00 a year with a $5,000.00 deductable. Why is it high well because I am a small business owner and we just don't get the good rates. We even looked and switching insurance companies to my wife's. Sorry sir your pre-existing condtions are not covered (previous cancer). The good new on that front in 2014 they will have to insure me but at what costs. My current agent is expecting our policy to go up not down by at least 8 to 10 percent.

So like Greg said they need to fix the cost. Why do i get a bill for $10,000 then after adjustment the bill is $4,000.00 ?

On a side note I did watch something very interesting on MSN about the rising cost of Seniors that will soon be on medicare & SS and good news they are living longer which means that we the people still working will be paying for them which I am more then ok with. Problem is the only way to pay for them is to increase our taxes on everyone. The 1% and now the 2% don't make enough to cover the rising cost.
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