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Old 12-17-2012, 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by GregWeld View Post
I don't want to turn this tragic thread into a gun discussion....


But my feeling is that our founding fathers wanted the citizenry to have guns for defense - defense against tyranny - defense against their own government gone wild (tyranny) - defense against a militia turned against it's citizenry.

The citizenry can't match muskets or Winchester 94's against todays high tech weaponry... Either from "friend" or foe... and while we can single out the "need" for these weapons as being the problem... I think the citizenry would have a far different thought -- if, or when, terrorists use a dirty bomb... or some other truly massive destructive device(s).

This is where people are torn -- because we understand that it's the weapons in the hands of ordinary citizens that keep the country "safe" -- yet at the same time it's also these weapons that are being used to create such devastating carnage and tragedy. I'm not sure how we balance these but that's where we probably need to get to.
Great thoughts Greg and I think its too late,
Just a few of my thoughts.
Maybe in some states it is TOO easy to buy them. I will admit they probably should tighten the noose there.
Most guns are in hands that by law are not allowed to have them or people that do not respect them.
During the first Obama presidential run gun sales went through the roof. It will most likely be the same in the coming months.

My problem with the gun bans.

They send money, energy and effort in the wrong direction. Spending money towards a gun ban bill is big money. Put it towards the real problem.

Drunk driving we fix the sickness. We don't ban the vessel.

There is no way gun control advocates will win. They may make it inconvienient but never a true victiory. Try a search on how much the NRA spends in political contributions. Now look to see how much money is raised for the fight with the anti gun contributers.
The devotion for the sides are unbalance also. Gun control advocacy is strong during times where guns are used in a crime. Then slowly dies out a few weeks later. Pro gun people will fight till the bitter end.

Gun buy back is high all over the country, but look to what is being returned. Large amount of turn in guns are pre 55 and probably just purchased a few days earlier from the local Big 5 for under a hundred bucks. I like this cause the people turning in these guys probably do not respect them in the first place. Guns not in safes and stored under the living room coffee table might as well be sent to the FBI's Mexican relief program.
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