View Single Post
  #74  
Old 05-14-2013, 01:56 AM
Spiffav8's Avatar
Spiffav8 Spiffav8 is offline
Lateral-g Moderator
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Posts: 4,748
Thanks: 591
Thanked 473 Times in 227 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by SuperSport View Post
OMG! You are kidding right?
I do support the Constitution and I believe it should not messed with by politicians that are trying to make a name for themselves. Of course we should keep the right to bear arms. My point is this. The irresponsible gun owners are going to ruin it for the responsible gun owners. Do I own a gun? No, do I have immediate family that owns guns yes. Have I gone to a gun range and shot weapons before, yes. Am I someone that thinks gun owners need to be held accountable when their weapons are used in crimes oh, YES I DO! Too many weapons end up in the wrong hands and this is not an issue it seems. If you want to own a gun then you better be responsible for that weapon. A Moron (a word you used) gun owner bought a gun for a 5 year old who then shot and killed his 2 year old sister. Pretty stupid huh. I would never allow that to happen so I, as a responsible person, choose not to own a gun. I would feel responsible if I owned a gun had it stolen and then it was used to kill someone.
People seem to think only Mexico has a gun problem but not us Americans. I think this is hilarious. I also think it is hilarious if you think California has problems unlike the rest of the country. Google how many kids get killed every year in this country and see if kids only get killed in California.
I think when you have loved ones that are killed by guns in the wrong hands to will see gun control in a different light. I have family that are police officers and the stories I hear from are crazy. Too many weapons in the wrong hands. But I still think only responsible people should be allowed to own guns.
If, you cant account for all your weapons then all your weapons should be taken away because you are a Moron gun owner.
You will soon see certain guns banned by your politicians. Just wait.
Peace!

.
You say that irresponsible gun owners are going to ruin it for all the others. Please define your idea of a irresponsible gun owner and a responsible one.

You also state that gun owners need to be held accountable for crimes committed with their guns. You appear to be saying that the owner of stolen gun that was used in a crime should be held accountable. How would that be fair? Neither the gun or it's owner committed the crime. The person who holds the gun did and they should be held accountable. Should you be held responsible if your car is stolen and used in a drive by, or used to drive through a group of children who are waiting for the school bus? Of course not. This line of thinking is crazy. Place the blame at the feet of those who earn it. The way you say it, it looks like you are out to get paid by the one person that can afford it.

I agree 100% with you that to many weapons (of all types) end up in the hands of those that shouldn't have them. That is what the real debate should be, but sadly it's not. My wife is a 911 dispatcher and I hear about everything that happens in Las Vegas. EVERYTHING...weather I want to or not. haha I also have some fantastic friends who are officers. Listening to them complain about how our system works against them in so many ways makes one realize why we have so many criminals and why that is only getting worse.

Children being killed, by any means, is horrible. I am not some heartless monster, but thank you for trying to paint me as such. Now if your point was to say that IF the gun of an owner who fails to take preventative measures from a child having access to a his/her firearm is used by a child to shoot another child (in home shooting kind of thing) should be held accountable, I totally agree with you. Now if a gun is stolen and then used by two criminals to kill a child (this recently happened when to robbers killed a baby, because the mother did have any money) then no, the owner should not be held accountable. Now before you take that and run, my personal belief is that there is a right and a wrong way to store a firearm.

I'm not sure where or why you seem to think I am against California. There are some strange laws there for sure. Travel much? The people of the United States is very different from one region to the next. You apparently missed my point.

Oh and I have had loved ones killed by guns. Have you?

You're last line
Quote:
You will soon see certain guns banned by your politicians. Just wait.
Peace!
says it all the proof I needed to show that you don't support the constitution. Thank you for making that clear and for the threat.
__________________
Curtis
Pilots: We're not better than you, just way cooler.

NO ONE IS COMING. IT'S UP TO US.

http://www.navysealfoundation.org/