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Old 06-24-2013, 08:31 PM
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I used the Baer track system on my previous car, a '71 Camaro with modded LS3 and full-on Global West suspension. As I learned the track and accumulated seat time, I found that dedicated racing pads and high-temp racing fluid were a necessity for the Track system to be even marginally workable. There's just not a whole lot of pad and rotor there to handle the thermal load of repeatedly hauling down 3500+ lb from 130+ MPH. From experience, using street or hybrid pads, if you continue to push the braking zones to the limit as Sieg suggests you will eventually experience the thrill of full-on brake fade. Not recommended for the weak of heart. Or, come to think of it, for the normal of heart either.

After some experimentation, I eventually ended up using Carbotech race pads for the track, XP12 front compound and XP10 rear. Then I'd switch back to the Carbotech street pads for street use - the race pads squeak like the very devil. The Carbotech formulations use the same "deposit layer" for both street and race pads, meaning you don't have to have dedicated track rotors separately bedded. The only problem is, the C4 pads are not just small but also quite thin and thus wear out much faster than the bigger, thicker pads used by the more ambitious big brake packages. And race pads ain't cheap.

I think Sieg's recommendation of the Hawk HP plus is not a bad one for a learning track driver. Just be sensitive to when your pedal pressure seems unusually high, or your pedal height unusually low, and back off a bit for a lap or two. When that gets too annoying, time for the next step
Thanks Scott... appreciate the great info on the brake pads.

I went back and watched your video out at PIR and your times were in the 1 min 28 second range compared to my 1 min 34 second range... that is quite a spread. My goal now is to get below 1 min 30 sec.

I Just got an email from Cascade Sports Car Club and the next track day events at PIR are on Aug. 9th, and Sept. 6th. I am going to sign up early for the Aug 9th track day. Let me know if you are interested in that event or if you have something else in mind. Look forward to meeting you some time... thanks again for the brake set up info!

It would be great if there are any other Oregon Washington Lat G members that would want to hit PIR in August...

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