Great point! finally someone gets it,
http://www.cachassisworks.com/downlo...l14_71-105.pdf
heres the info. You know what this just may be all for nothin the good points made from both ends, When Detroit only sells a small amount of these "GREAT" frames at that number, besides im sure its not cheap to have too pay for a machine that hydroforms, lol and when they sell less than expected you guys that have bought them for that price will feel a little silly when a year or two later there selling them there or on ebay for a couple grand

cant wait to see how Detroit frame performs with some real power sitting in its saddle!