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Originally Posted by Mkelcy
You missed my point. You DO need to modify/replace the front suspension on a first generation Camaro to get it to handle well. However, there is often a suggestion in this thread and others discussing the latest new part that, unless you have the part on your car, you can't be (1) fast, or (2) a real pro-touring car.....
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That cuts both ways. The folks who state that you don't need an aftermarket sub are suggesting that there are no real benefits to the upgrade when in fact the benefits exist. The gains are small and therefore represent a higher cost to value ratio than the stock subframe upgrades. But that holds true for all "next level" upgrades. The cost to go from point B to point C almost always is greater than the cost required to get from point A to point B. The cost to turn a 12 second car to a 11 second car, is usually far less than the transition of an 11 second car into an 10 second car. The net gain in either case is a one second reduction, but one task costs more than the other.
So I agree with you. You get more value from a stock sub upgrade than you get from a subframe swap. I just want to make sure that you--and everyone else--understands that the right subframe swap has benefits despite the fact that it costs more. There's more to it than just bling.