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Old 11-11-2014, 09:37 AM
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I reread this thread this morning and realized I put the cart before the horse a bit in my posts. I had my SCCA hat on a bit too quickly plus didn't realize the cars weren't split into the three normal classes at the OUSCI final.

So to add to my original proposal of what a PT class would\should look like, I'd also add "American Made" to my proposed PT class ruleset.



Here what I proposed to the SCCA for changes to their CAM classes for 2015:

These are all American made, street legal licensed and registered, 200 TW street tired cars to start with.

CAM = All current CAM cars with 275 or smaller tires, stock appearing interior, minimum 3200 pounds (edit to 3000 pounds*)
CAM-W = All current CAM cars with larger than 275 tires, somewhat altered interiors, minimum 3000 pounds
CAM-S = All current CAM-S cars (factory two seaters) and cars that don't fit into CAM or CAM-W

*I didn't realize the 1967 Camaro was only 3100 pounds from the factory so I'd leave the minimum weight for CAM at 3000 pounds as it is now.



A common goal to create a ruleset that allows car owners to build a car to compete in OUSCI, SCCA, ASCA and Good Guys on level playing fields is being worked on. The courses and competitions are different, SCCA is mainly autocross while at the OUSCI more attention is paid to the road courses...but a common ruleset between the three will help everyone creating a draw to get competitors to show at events and giving competitors a place to play competitively.

Everyone is going to have a bit of a different idea of how to set the ruleset that benefits themselves the most, I know I'm guilty of that. But most of us want the same thing overall...a place to play as competitively as possible.

I just want the ruleset to be kept as simple as possible and include as many cars as possible in their own competitive class(es). If you used the three classes listed above plus a class for the AWD import cars, just about every car that was at OUSCI last weekend would run competitively against similar type cars and have a shot. Not sure how you decide on the single Ultimate Street Car from those classes but maybe the one that scores the most points in their respective class ends up being the overall winner? Or you get an Ultimate Street Car winner from each class and all get the same recognition.

It is hard to not SCCA up the ruleset if you get my drift, but it seems you have to split it up at least a little bit to make it more fair for everyone. That should be the common goal. Trying to do it by make, model and year just isn't going to work, there are way too many modifications allowed and different types of body styles used in this type of an open class for that type of separation.
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