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Originally Posted by Che70velle
So Ty, were a bunch of hobbyists. Nothing more. We come from all walks of life, and all of us share a common creed, which is a passion for cars. All we are doing here is taking an otherwise stock automobile, and transforming it into a better handling, more efficient running, safer to ride in car, while improving the looks somewhat, and that's (improving the looks) debatable to many. I don't really know how or why someone first called this "Pro-Touring", but to MOST people, it refers only to a style, and doesn't hold guidelines on how far you need to modify your car.
I certainly see you point. I have just tried to read the definition (That I didn't create) and understand what the original question was asking. Just because something might point to a direction, or level that is beyond what you would choose to do for your car for one reason or another is just fine.
Under the definition, None of my projects are currently at the true "Pro Touring" level. It doesn't mean I don't enjoy my cars. It is the segment of this Hobby that I enjoy and like the most. As time goes by, at least at this point, I will continue to would on my "Pro Touring" project, drive my "Pro Touring" project, and enjoy my "Pro Touring" project.
I know that I for one, would be outta here if I had to meet a criteria comparable to a Steilow build, with custom built, one off parts, and carbon fiber body panels. I simply am not willing to put that kind of money into a car.
I do understand and there is nothing wrong with that, nor should there be. This is just a Hobby we are passionate about, nothing that we would take food away from a baby over. All I have tried to do it look at the definition and understand what it means. I've just tried to break it down to it's purest form that's all.
I could replicate my home, for that kind of coin. What I'm trying to say is that we all have modded our cars on different levels, to the point of where there not really two cars exactly alike. So I suggest that we leave the title, or name of this hobby alone, before it becomes a formality of having to have an exact amount of certain items, in order to be accepted into the hobby. But you are suggesting that the HOBBY be renamed: AMERICAN CLASSIC TOURING CARS? or AMERICAN CLASSIC GT? 
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All I was trying to do is to take what I thought were synonyms of the definitions we are given, and reword the stated definition, as to create a name that essentially said the same thing. I think I even broadened it a bit. It doesn't matter to me whether is stays the same or changes.
I have tried to encourage this the whole time, I tried to make the question more dynamic than it was as to create some real discussion and thought. I think for the most part, at least by looking at the answers, that many on this board have really given the original question, A LOT, of thought. I have learned many things about how the people, at least those here who are willing to voice their opinion, think what "Pro Touring" is and how to describe it.
I tend to agree with everyone. I am working on my cars to make them as close to true "Pro Touring" as possible within the time, personal preferences I have and financial constrants I have to work with.
I think that is what most of us are doing.
I don't think there would be many of us that would stay if it was so deeply regimented. We probably wouldn't qualify to begin with. I would be in this group as well.
Thanks agin for you thoughts, thay have certainly helped move the dialog further.
Take care,
Ty O'Neal