Dale that's funny
My buddy was going to buy one of my Kinesis sets
for his Pantera and then he waited and came back and
said yes.. after looking at the prices of the wheels nowadays
I said I was keeping them.. but the forgelines they are cool
I still like the Simmons but needed to go to more available
rubber for 200 tires along with bigger brakes
Hope they work out for you...they have been a good set of wheels
and they have won a lot of events for me for many years
including championships... so they are a trained set of wheels
Should have put that in my original add
Bob