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Old 09-17-2017, 02:34 PM
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I didn't list the front hub features in the previous post, because some brake packages (like the C5/C6, Speedtech ATS, DSE, Roadster Shop, AME & others utilizing the C5/C6 mounting) don't need hubs. For cars with regular spindles that need hubs … read on …

The list of Features & Benefits from the Hubs is pretty impressive too:
  • 6061 Billet Aluminum Hubs - CNC machined in USA to ultra precise tolerances
  • Much wider flange = Less wheel deflection under cornering loads
  • Bigger radius behind the flange = Less wheel deflection under cornering loads
  • ARP 3" long x 1/2"-NF (8740 Chromoly) Wheel Studs standard
  • Timken Bearings & Races - No Chinese junk
  • "Slip Fit" seal design, allows you to remove & replace the seals without tearing them up
  • Seals are held in by 3 flange retaining screws (Just like pro race hubs)
  • No Stamped Steel Dust Caps to hammer on or pry off!
  • Billet Aluminum Dust Caps utilize three screws for easy removal & replacement
  • Hubs & dust caps are hard anodized gloss black to look great for a long time
  • RSRT designed tab spindle nut washer (Stainless Steel)
  • Allows you to set near perfect bearing preload more accurately than the cotter key & castle nut method

We still need to discuss hub bearings. But first we should bring everyone up to speed on the wheel bearing issue.
I almost didn't design hubs & brake kits for several series of Muscle Cars from the 60's & early 70's ... as they came from the factory with tiny outer wheel/hub bearings rated under 1000# for thrust load. Most of you that know me, remember the online discussions we had about these weak, dangerous outer hub bearings a few years ago. I didn’t want to design brakes & hubs for spindle with bearings I knew would fail. Better brakes just adds to the loading.

Most GM, Ford & Mopar muscle cars from the 60’s & 70’s came with outer hub bearings rated at only 917# or 922# of thrust load. Fine ... back in the day ... when these cars came with G70-14 bias ply tires & the cars struggled to pull .8G. Today, with modern tires, suspensions & brakes, we're pulling 1.4G on autocross courses & 1.6-2.0G on road courses. Yes ... in Pro-Touring cars with 315/335 TW200 tires. The thrust loads on the hub bearings are up in the 1200#-1500# range.

Here is a list of cars/spindles/hubs & their outer bearings with thrust load ratings for you to ponder:


Ford/Mercury:
  • Fairlane 1966-1969 V8 Drum & All Disc Spindles use LM11949 Bearing rated at 917#
  • Falcon/Comet 1963-1969 V8 Drum & All Disc Spindles use LM11949 Bearing rated at 917#
  • Granada 1975-1982 uses LM12749 Bearing rated at 921#
  • Mustang/Cougar 1964-1969 V8 Drum & All Disc Spindles use LM11949 Bearing rated at 917#
  • Mustang BOSS 1969 spindles use M12649 Bearing rated at 1130#
  • Mustang GT350 & GT500 1970 Spindles use LM11949 Bearing rated at 917#
  • Mustang II 1974-1978 uses LM12749 Bearing rated at 921#
  • Pinto 1971-1980 uses LM12749 Bearing rated at 921#
  • Ranchero 1965-1969 V8 Drum & All Disc Spindles use LM11949 Bearing rated at 917#
  • Torino/Cyclone/Montego 1967-1696 Spindles use LM11949 Bearing rated at 917#

GM
  • A-Body (Chevelle/GTO/442/Skylark) 1964-1972 use LM11949 Bearing rated at 917#
  • A-Body (Monte Carlo/Gran Prix) 1970-1972 use LM11949 Bearing rated at 917#
  • A-Body (Monte Carlo/Gran Prix/Cutlass/Etc) 1973-1977 use LM11949 Bearing rated at 917#
  • B-Body (Impala & GM Sisters) 1971-1976 use M12649 Bearing rated at 1130#
  • B-Body (Impala & GM Sisters) 1977-1989 use M12649 Bearing rated at 1130#
  • Chevy II & Nova 1962-1967 use LM11949 Bearing rated at 917#
  • C5 Corvette 1997-2004 uses a Sealed Hub & Bearing rated at 1080#
  • C6 Corvette 2005-2013 uses a Sealed Hub & Bearing at 1080#
  • C6 Corvette 2008-2013 ZR1-Z06-GS uses a Sealed Hub & Bearing rated at 1515#
  • C7 Corvette 2014-Present ALL uses a Sealed Hub & Bearing at 1515#
  • C10 Pickup (Chevy & GMC) 1962-1970 use LM11949 Bearing rated at 917#
  • C10 Pickup (Chevy & GMC) 1971-1976 use M12649 Bearing rated at 1130#
  • C10 Pickup (Chevy & GMC) 1977-1976 use M12649 Bearing rated at 1130#
  • C10 Pickup (Chevy & GMC) 1981-1986 use M12649 Bearing rated at 1130#
  • F-Body (Camaro & Firebird) 1967-1969 use LM11949 Bearing rated at 917#
  • F-Body (Camaro & Firebird) 1970-1978 use LM11949 Bearing rated at 917#
  • F-Body (Camaro & Firebird) 1979-1981 use M12649 Bearing rated at 1130#
  • F-Body (Camaro & Firebird) 1982-1992 use LM12748/9 Bearing rated at 921#
  • F-Body (Z28, IROC-Z & Trans Am) 1988-1992 M12649 Bearing rated at 1130#
  • G-Body (Monte Carlo/Regal/Cutlass/Gran Prix) ‘79-‘81 use M12649 Bearing rated at 1130#
  • G-Body (Monte Carlo/Regal/Cutlass/Gran Prix) ‘82-‘88 use LM12748/9 Bearing rated at 921#
  • X-Body (Nova & GM Sisters) 1968-1974 use LM11949 Bearing rated at 917#
  • X-Body (Nova & GM Sisters) 1975-1978 use LM11949 Bearing rated at 917#
  • X-Body (Nova & GM Sisters) 1979 Only uses M12649 Bearing rated at 1130#

Mopar:
  • A-Body spindles & hubs use LM11949 Bearing rated at 917#
Valiant/Lancer/ Barracuda/Duster/Scamp/Dart/Demon
  • B-Body spindles & hubs use LM11949 Bearing rated at 917#
Savoy/Belvedere/Satellite/GTX/Road Runner/Fury/Polara/Charger/Coronet/Super Bee
  • E-Body spindles & hubs use LM11949 Bearing rated at 917#
70-70 Cuda & Challenger

Aftermarket Spindles:
  • Allstar/Jegs/Summit/Etc G-Body & S10 Clone Spindles use M12649 or M12748
  • Art Morrison C6 Spindle uses Sealed Hub & Bearing rated unknown (Inquiry made)
  • Belltech S10 Dropped Spindles use M12649 or M12748 (Depending on Hub you Use)
  • Belltech C10 1981-1986 Dropped Spindles use M12649 Bearing rated at 1130#
  • DSE Spindle (C6 Clone) uses Sealed Hub & Bearing rated unknown (Inquiry made)
  • Magnum Force Mopar 2” Drop Spindles use LM11949 Bearing rated at 917#
  • Mustang II/Pinto Clone and/or Dropped Spindles use LM12749 Bearing rated at 921#
  • Ridetech Dropped Spindle uses LM11949 Bearing rated at 917#
  • Ridetech Modular Spindle uses C7 Sealed Hub & Bearing rated at 1515#
  • Roadster Shop Spindle uses Z06 Sealed Hub & Bearing rated at 1515#
  • Ron Sutton Race Technology GT & GTR Spindles use #2687 Bearing rated at 1800#
  • Speedtech ATS Tall Spindle uses C7 Sealed Hub & Bearing rated at 1515#
  • Speedtech ATS ExtReme Spindle uses C7 Sealed Hub & Bearing rated at 1515#
  • Wilwood Mustang II Pro Spindle uses LM12749 Bearing rated at 921#
  • Wilwood C10 Pro Spindle uses Sealed Hub & Bearing rated unknown (Inquiry made)

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Now, all the listings above in red, I was NOT going to create hubs & brake kits for … unless I could increase the outer hub bearing size & thrust load rating. We did. I worked with Timken bearing engineers & came up with solutions for almost all of them.

Here are the bearings I used, in each hub design for the applications we offer, or will offer our Triple Duty StopTech Brakes Optimized by RSRT.

A. All of the cars & spindles that come with LM12649 outer bearings … simply come with the best LM12649 bearing available … Timken. These are true 1130# thrust load rated, where a lot of off brands & imports do not meet that load rating, or simply don’t have their bearings tested.

B. All of the cars & spindles that come with LM12748/9 outer bearings thrust load rated at 921# … I designed new hubs that allow us to utilize the Timken LM12649 bearing, thrust load rated at 1130#. This increases their thrust load capacity by over 20%.

C. All of the cars & spindles that come with LM11949 Bearing rated at 917# … I designed new hubs that allow us to use the Timken #21075 bearing, thrust load rated at … ready … 2540#. That is not a typo. It is a commonly available Timken automotive bearing. It is bigger, beefier, handles more heat & has bigger rollers with more surface area. When it’s time, you can buy replacement bearings around $20 each. This increases the bearing’s thrust load capacity by over 275%.

D. All cars that utilize the C5/C6/C7 mounting, we simply suggest you utilize the stronger, higher rated C6 ZR1 or C7 hub & bearing versions.

Now a really cool part … my StopTech brake packages with these superior hubs, dust caps, reusable seal mounting, ARP ½” x 3” long studs & strong(er) Timken bearings ONLY add $200 to the cost of a front brake kit!

We do NOT sell these hubs separately (unless you need a replacement). If I did, they would cost $800-900 a pair. So when you’re shopping brakes, compare the big picture & I think you’ll find:
  • My StopTech brakes do cost more initially
  • They are a superior brake system on many levels
  • You won’t have to change brake pads going from street to autocross or track days
  • Your pads & rotors will last longer
  • Over time, this brake system will actually cost you less

See them HERE ... Call me at 844-722-3832 Ext 3 ... or Email me HERE
- Ron Sutton

Ron Sutton Race Technology
11374 Amalgam Way
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