As mention in earlier threads "subframe from Detroit" and everyone got there panties in a bunch over it I have said before What are they thinking! now Grant it they make a great product no disputing but come the hell on, There frames and of dont forget comes with brakes, where 6K now this the first person spending that much on a pulley set up needs there head checked! WOW and im not a detroit hater but but come on people plzzzzzzz