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11-10-2009, 02:05 AM
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When ever I hear this stupid saying I picture someone chanting it to themself while they put on all their gear and camo face paint so they can go out and LOOK for a situation where they need to shoot someone, and then claim it was self defense.
I'd rather avoid both situations at all costs, but if it comes right down to it, I won't hesitate to kill someone that's trying to kill me no matter how I have to do it. I also expect I'll be spending a lot of time locked up if I ever do have to kill someone. But really, why would anyone be trying to kill me? Anyone breaking into my house to rob me would probably wait till I'm not there. If not I'll have a security system and a dog or two, if those don't scare them off then the shot gun will be waiting, but shooting it will be a last resort. Any mugger on the street is either going to kill me before I even know he's there, or he'll probably just take my money and run.
I just think the chances of ever needing to shoot at someone are VERY slim if you take a few precautions. I always hear people tell me that in such and such state you can shoot someone on your property for any reason and it's totally legal. Well not a dang one of them had ever done any research on that, and even if the written law seems to agree, you never know for sure until you're in the court room for killing an intruder.
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11-10-2009, 08:23 PM
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I know I got an email saying there was a response to what I'm assuming was my post lol. But it's not here now. I don't want to sound anti gun, I didn't mean my posts to sound that way. I love guns. I know the original question was which gun, but nothing else was said about the OP's security measures. I just want anyone that wants to keep a gun by the bed to REALLY think everything through. Shooting someone in the middle of the night is going to turn into a nightmare no matter how it plays out. So it's best to try to prevent ever needing to in the first place
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11-11-2009, 04:16 PM
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I know I got an email saying there was a response to what I'm assuming was my post lol. But it's not here now. I don't want to sound anti gun, I didn't mean my posts to sound that way. I love guns. I know the original question was which gun, but nothing else was said about the OP's security measures. I just want anyone that wants to keep a gun by the bed to REALLY think everything through. Shooting someone in the middle of the night is going to turn into a nightmare no matter how it plays out. So it's best to try to prevent ever needing to in the first place 
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Your last line in the above post really says it all.
The whole gun issue is a tough one. There are a lot of different opinions on them. But like politics and religion, leave me out of it and let me live my life without your opinion and I will do the same for you. (meaning the general public and no one specific here  )
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11-11-2009, 10:26 PM
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.45 or .40 SIGARMS, thats all I buy. Go to a gun shop that will let you rent them an put afew rounds down range and get a feel for it but nothing beats a SIG.
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11-14-2009, 06:58 AM
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Your question has touched on alot of nerves, both good and bad. I did not read through all 11 pages of responces, so I'm certain most of my following post has been stated at least once.
My family lives pretty much, "Out in the sticks." Only ONE other home is in view and it's up a steep, single lane road in the woods that is just over 1/4 mile long. Isolated and out of site from just about anyone. We love it, BTW.
As for "Home Protection" a Dog or 2 is really your best protection. They will sound the alarm LONG before you ever realize that someone has broken into your home and afford you the opportunity (time) to respond in whatever manner you decide.
An Intruder can't reason with a Dog. "Lay face down, on the ground." Who is willing to risk serious injury breaking into a home with 1 or 2 Dogs present? Just not worth it.
We have 1 Dog and she is about 75lbs and as gentle as any you will ever meet. Never bit anyone in 11 years and probably never will. Hardly ever barks, BUT if someone unknown is close by. We can't shut her up.
Want to help discourage a "Home Invasion." and are really concerned it may happen. Leave a few lights ON at night, get a Dog, don't brag about your $$$ stuff you have, keep a low profile. Avoid attracking attention to you or your home. Statistics show that most break-in's are committed by someone the victim knows. A security system is fine but whoever is breaking in, is STILL IN before the alarm is sounded.
If a Gun of some sort is your answer. Almost anyone will agree that a Shotgun is the way to go. Hard to miss at close range and you wont tear up everything else in the process. Forget about a Hand Gun. Your upset, panicked and not REALLY ready to deal with what's happening.
Ultimately, IMO prevention is the key. Don't appear to be tempting. Buy sign that states, "Guarded by XYZ". The criminal wont know it's BS and wont risk finding out. Install a few motion sensors outside that will turn on some lights if tripped.
Think about being, "Proactive not Reactive."
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11-14-2009, 07:35 AM
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I have 2 cents worth to add..
its really nor a question of weather its a sig s&w or a glock (id choose the latter) or if its .40 .45 or 9mm auto... its a question of having a gun you are familliar with, that doesnt jam or have elaborate safeties...
Its a matter of having it handy, being able to use it and making sure you never have to...
the DOG argument was a good one, as is lights, alarms and doors you cant run thru...
but when all the passive security fails and the dog is sleeping, or dead?? you need to be able to get your gear fast and have everything ready in one grab. and it needs to be what you get EVERYTIME you hear a noise...
some people swear by a pouch with 2! surefire or simmilar flashlights (two is one, one is none.. it never wioks when its supposed to) a a pepperspray, 2 mags or speedloaders and a sidepocket holding the gun...
and dont get a 500s&w ... i would choose a .357 DA revolver.. there is no safety to fool with.. doesnt require pumping or otherwise, it NEVER jams and 6 rounds of SJHP .357 will ruin everyones day.. and fired from a 4 inch revolver it wil rattle any intruder with the first warningshot aimed center mass...
If it were me that worried about intruders id have a lockable cabinet (unlocked) with a simple tactical or hunting vest that had everything in the pockets and the gun in a chest holster.. all you need is to get out of bed and put it on and you have everything.. flashlights, spary, gun, clips/speedloaders remote to the intruder alarm, keys etc... (the nech pouch is another option.. but not as cool :-) )
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11-14-2009, 07:45 AM
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Best thing to do for home intrusion - just let the wife get out of bed and see what's wrong. If she doesn't come back - you can get on the internet in the morning to find the new car you're going to buy.
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11-14-2009, 11:08 AM
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Best thing to do for home intrusion - just let the wife get out of bed and see what's wrong. If she doesn't come back - you can get on the internet in the morning to find the new car you're going to buy.
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Greg, I don't know what to say. I am having a hard time finding the words. Because I am LAUGHING SO HARD!!!
I knew there was a reason I like you!
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12-30-2009, 04:45 PM
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Okay -- I found a new video for all you DB gun lovers.... HA HA HA HA
You're going to love this!!!
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12-30-2009, 04:57 PM
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