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Old 09-13-2012, 11:40 AM
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Tony, don't take this the wrong way but have you had your blood checked to see how healthy you really are? What is your height and weight? How often do you excercise?
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Old 09-13-2012, 11:52 AM
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I know this may scare some of you. A very good friend of mine was working for an large Food manufacturer ( can't same the name ) and he had to develope machine for grinding up recycled paper ( the kind you put out in your recycle bin ). The paper of course is ground up very very small and looks like dust.

So what do the do with this. It's th fiber they add into the food we are buying off the grocery store shelf.

and yes I have seen the Machine's in use and let me tell you it's scarry.
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Tony, don't take this the wrong way but have you had your blood checked to see how healthy you really are? What is your height and weight? How often do you excercise?
I'm not trying to brag about how 'healthy' I am. I really have no clue if I even am! Health to me is a stress free, happy life. It has nothing to do with a scale or 'cholesterol level'. I don't exercise much.. it does not make me happy. But I am not 'fat' by our cultural visual standard.

I have plenty of physical ability to do most anything I choose, but good health to me is happiness and (trying to) eat clean.

Now, back to changing your diet!

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I know this may scare some of you. A very good friend of mine was working for an large Food manufacturer ( can't same the name ) and he had to develope machine for grinding up recycled paper ( the kind you put out in your recycle bin ). The paper of course is ground up very very small and looks like dust.

So what do the do with this. It's th fiber they add into the food we are buying off the grocery store shelf.

and yes I have seen the Machine's in use and let me tell you it's scarry.
That is disturbing... we aren't eating real food, its industrial waste and chemicals.

No wonder we get all this propaganda about 'whole wheat' and 'fiber'. It's profitable.
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That is disturbing... we aren't eating real food, its industrial waste and chemicals.

No wonder we get all this propaganda about 'whole wheat' and 'fiber'. It's profitable.

really really
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Tony, I'm not sure how you give advice when you aren't sure you are healthy? To say that unlimited amounts of cholesterol and saturated fats are good for you is like saying if one beer is good for you, so is a case.

A good buddy of mine is very overweight, eats like crap,(Steak cooked in a skillet full of butter) drinks like a fish, smokes like a freight train and says he feels good all the time. He's a heart attach waiting to happen. His Dad suffered the same fate at only 2 years older than he is today.

Balance and moderation is key. I choose for my diet to be largely made up of fruits, vegetables, raw nuts, cottage cheese, greek yogurt, whole grains, wild ocean fish, and chicken. However, I had steak in my bowl today and eat white rolls, etc.

In life, I like to take advice from people I would trade places with gladly. When it comes to health, I'm not going to listen to my afformentioned buddy.
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Old 09-13-2012, 02:20 PM
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Tony, I'm not sure how you give advice when you aren't sure you are healthy? To say that unlimited amounts of cholesterol and saturated fats are good for you is like saying if one beer is good for you, so is a case.

A good buddy of mine is very overweight, eats like crap,(Steak cooked in a skillet full of butter) drinks like a fish, smokes like a freight train and says he feels good all the time. He's a heart attach waiting to happen. His Dad suffered the same fate at only 2 years older than he is today.

Balance and moderation is key. I choose for my diet to be largely made up of fruits, vegetables, raw nuts, cottage cheese, greek yogurt, whole grains, wild ocean fish, and chicken. However, I had steak in my bowl today and eat white rolls, etc.

In life, I like to take advice from people I would trade places with gladly. When it comes to health, I'm not going to listen to my afformentioned buddy.
No I never said to eat unlimited amounts of anything. I do like to give my opinions based on my research and what works for me. It's just my .02, it can be taken for what it's worth. I've found it to be good information even though it directly conflicts with the health 'establishment' talking points.

Saturated fat and cholesterol are in fact healthy. Please look into it. Talking about your diet, I would drop the 'whole grains' as much as possible. Cut back on any cheese if you eat alot of that. Try to get some organic plain white yogurt instead. Greek has too much sugar. And watch out for 'sugar free' or 'aspartame' in those yogurts. Eat that stuff and you'll be craving the grains. Toxins are the most addictive.

Steak is good, but should be eaten raw or at least medium. Farm fish is good, shell fish is great... avoid the tuna nowadays thanks to Fukashima. Add some organic pork too like bacon or pork chops.. always change it up with it comes to meats and fish and always go for true organic if possible. I really think you would benefit from raw milk from grass feed cows too. The enzymes and pro-biotics help regulate digestion too. If you're having problems with that, you stomach could need some extra help. Raw milk is good or fermented apple cider vinegar before a meal. Braggs is the best. You can buy it on Amazon or maybe at your local supermarket. I'm about to start on their amino product since most of us are not getting all the amino acids we need.

Your buddy sounds happy but being overweight is not healthy... it could catch up to him but some people can take are just plain immune. My wife NEVER gets a stinking cold!!! If she does its a runny nose for a whole day!
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No I never said to eat unlimited amounts of anything. I do like to give my opinions based on my research and what works for me. It's just my .02, it can be taken for what it's worth. I've found it to be good information even though it directly conflicts with the health 'establishment' talking points.
how do you know it works tony... you just said you don't know if you are healthy.

im not disagreeing with your research or science, but i see it as something you just use as justification for the fact that your uncomfortable with the physical shape your in. some of us want to be physically fit so we take advise off of real world results to attain the look and feel we desire.

so for me since my goal is vain, your 2 cent aint worth a penny
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how do you know it works tony... you just said you don't know if you are healthy.

im not disagreeing with your research or science, but i see it as something you just use as justification for the fact that your uncomfortable with the physical shape your in. some of us want to be physically fit so we take advise off of real world results to attain the look and feel we desire.

so for me since my goal is vain, your 2 cent aint worth a penny
Where did you get this "fact"? I'm very content with my "appearance". I just don't base my life around how I look or what I weight. I base it on how I feel. That is not a knock on anyone either.

My point is that you can look "fit" and still be internally unhealthy, deficient or unbalanced. You can look like P90X Tony Horton or Tony Little (Remember him? ) but can still have toxic 'fiber' constipating you or be poisoned with formaldehyde from diet coke and still 'look good'.

But the good news is you can still eat bacon, butter and eggs and pass for an underwear model if that's what you desire.
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Where did you get this "fact"? I'm very content with my "appearance".
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I just don't base my life around how I look or what I weight. I base it on how I feel. That is not a knock on anyone either.
i understand that and didnt see it as a knock.
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Maybe you misread.. I never said I was unhappy with how I look.
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