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Old 01-01-2013, 11:40 PM
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Oh but wait, theres even a bigger picture.......There aren't enough American people voting or getting involved.
We need to get the message out and motivate more Americans........create posters of all the faces of these irresponsible politicians and hold these bastards accountable!!
People Voting is great but most are lemmings who get swayed by the marketing hype of big $$ marketing; From either side.

How about we all focus on ending the policy of lobbying. How does out vote ever count when a paid goon with an expense account is always in our legislators office telling them how to vote.

If somebody can explain the value of lobbyist or why we all continue to allow the practice to exist I'd appreciate it.

Legislators will never represent their constituency if they are only listening to special interests.
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TERM LIMITS!!!!!
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TERM LIMITS!!!!!
Won't do crap.

The $$ will buy the votes for their guy and the Lobbyist will keep them informed on what their backers want the vote to be.

Vote for your city and county reps and attend a council meeting or two. Push for change from below.

Any post at a state or national level is dictated by the marketing of the candidate by whoever has the $$.
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Won't do crap.

The $$ will buy the votes for their guy and the Lobbyist will keep them informed on what their backers want the vote to be.

Vote for your city and county reps and attend a council meeting or two. Push for change from below.

Any post at a state or national level is dictated by the marketing of the candidate by whoever has the $$.
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THREE WORDS....



ONE TERM LIMIT
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Won't do crap.

The $$ will buy the votes for their guy and the Lobbyist will keep them informed on what their backers want the vote to be.

Vote for your city and county reps and attend a council meeting or two. Push for change from below.

Any post at a state or national level is dictated by the marketing of the candidate by whoever has the $$.


Anyone doubting this statement should read this article published in the Wall Street Journal today.



http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...669161978.html
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Anyone doubting this statement should read this article published in the Wall Street Journal today.



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