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Old 11-18-2020, 04:32 PM
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Running a Tanks Inc. tank in my 69 Camaro. Getting ready to purchase a fuel pump module for it.
I'm wanting to just purchase the largest unit they have, for future HP capability.

Question I have is, would there be issues running a large pump (PWM) at lower HP levels initially?

I'll be running a 6.0L twin turbo setup eventually (750 HP max), but am thinking about running it N/A for a while, just to get the car running. Don't really want to buy a smaller pump now, then spend $$ on a Larger one later, unless it will be an issue.

Here's the unit I'm looking at.

https://www.tanksinc.com/index.cfm?p...d=61&mode=prod

Also if, there is something better (there always is) I'm open to suggestions.

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With a PWM controller I'd think you're fine. I'll be using one of Carls Vaporworx PWM units on mine for exactly that reason. I'd talk to Carl to verify as he has systems matched to many different pumps and will give you an honest informed opinion if that exact pump will do what you want it to.

http://www.vaporworx.com/
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With a PWM controller I'd think you're fine. I'll be using one of Carls Vaporworx PWM units on mine for exactly that reason. I'd talk to Carl to verify as he has systems matched to many different pumps and will give you an honest informed opinion if that exact pump will do what you want it to.

http://www.vaporworx.com/
Thanks for the info and insight. I was looking at their website. Lot's of useful info there!! Controller costs more than the pump!!! But hey, quality costs money, and it's better than being stranded with sub par equipment
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Thanks for the info and insight. I was looking at their website. Lot's of useful info there!! Controller costs more than the pump!!! But hey, quality costs money, and it's better than being stranded with sub par equipment
I fully agree with Jody, what you get from Carl is a lot more than just a nice controller. The customer support is amazing.

I've been working with him on my car since the start and now have his latest upgraded controller as I went with a bigger pump configuration.

I have a ricks tank with dual CTSV to start with, and was EXCELLENT, until power turned up a bit too much and had to upgrade a pump. The low level fuel control is amazing.



Original controller:


I now have a CTSV pump as a primary so low fuel performance is still great, but have a Ricks module with dual walbro 525's in it, and if the tank is less than half tank basically, you can see the fuel pressure fall off. Not a big deal for autox, but drag racing and spirited highway driving, you want to be sure you have plenty of fuel.



New Controller:


There are a lot of options out there and Carl can help point you in the best direction for your build and your goals!

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I fully agree with Jody, what you get from Carl is a lot more than just a nice controller. The customer support is amazing.

I've been working with him on my car since the start and now have his latest upgraded controller as I went with a bigger pump configuration.

I have a ricks tank with dual CTSV to start with, and was EXCELLENT, until power turned up a bit too much and had to upgrade a pump. The low level fuel control is amazing.



Original controller:


I now have a CTSV pump as a primary so low fuel performance is still great, but have a Ricks module with dual walbro 525's in it, and if the tank is less than half tank basically, you can see the fuel pressure fall off. Not a big deal for autox, but drag racing and spirited highway driving, you want to be sure you have plenty of fuel.



New Controller:


There are a lot of options out there and Carl can help point you in the best direction for your build and your goals!

William
I'm not going to be anywhere near your power levels, so hopefully I won't need dual pumps, otherwise I'll be having to purchase a new tank.
I figure 750 max will be sufficient for what I want to do.
Thanks Will for the info!!
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Honestly with that as a max, i'd look at using a V (or ZL1) module and replace the pumps with DW300C pumps. Get a vaporworx controller to control it all and let him know you're using those pumps. I think that would get you VERY close to 750rwhp and maybe even on E85.

https://www.deatschwerks.com/blog/ne...-fuel-pump-kit
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