...

Go Back   Lateral-g Forums > Technical Discussions > Transmission and Rear End
User Name
Password



Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 01-20-2019, 03:37 PM
rickpaw rickpaw is offline
Lateral-g Supporting Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Houston, Tx
Posts: 854
Thanks: 3
Thanked 11 Times in 10 Posts
Default TR6060 swap - clutch disengagement question

I recently swapped a TR6060 transmission from a 2012 Camaro SS. The transmission came with stock GM throw out bearing/Centerforce DYAD clutch. The hydraulic conversion kit is from McLeod, Pn 1434002.

https://www.summitracing.com/parts/m...t/model/camaro

The issue from day one was I couldn't get the clutch to release without the car sitting, and idle for awhile. The clutch also release normally when the weather was hot/warm. I was certain that there was no air in the system, or leak. The McLeod tech I talked to said I can extend the rod on the master cylinder to take up the slack, per se, but I'm not convinced that's the right way to do it.

Once every warms up, then it shifts/goes into gear just fine.

Now the master cylinder leaks so I'm going to replace it with another McLeod 3/4" m/c I have. Any suggestions I go while I have everything apart?
__________________
Tu Ho
67 Firebird (aka "Money Pit")-5.3/4l60e, restomod.
https://lateral-g.net/forums/showthread.php4?t=43170
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 01-20-2019, 07:53 PM
egoman's Avatar
egoman egoman is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: Rosser Manitoba Canada
Posts: 15
Thanks: 0
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Default

Dragging pilot bushing?
__________________
The "Biggest" thing in motocross!
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 01-21-2019, 08:15 AM
rickpaw rickpaw is offline
Lateral-g Supporting Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Houston, Tx
Posts: 854
Thanks: 3
Thanked 11 Times in 10 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by egoman View Post
Dragging pilot bushing?
Don't think dragging pilot bushing will do that. I'm think dragging clutch is more likely the culprit.
__________________
Tu Ho
67 Firebird (aka "Money Pit")-5.3/4l60e, restomod.
https://lateral-g.net/forums/showthread.php4?t=43170
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 01-24-2019, 11:58 AM
gnx7's Avatar
gnx7 gnx7 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Bay Area, CA
Posts: 562
Thanks: 1
Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts
Default

In all the T56, T56 Magnum (TR6060) conversions I do we run a 7/8" bore MC.

I have also found that the slaves once depressurized have a high likelihood of failure.... meaning I never install a used one unless it is 6 months old.

Start with the MC replacement and if the new one that doesn't leak works... run it. If not... replace the slave also.
__________________
Project: 1969 Chevelle, alum 5.3, GTS76 turbo, Chiseled Perf A/W intercooler, Holley Dominator EFI, Davis TC, JRi coilovers, 14" brakes, T56 Magnum. CTS-V Recaro seats!
Coffey Fabrication Nashville, TN doing the fabwork! 800rwhp+/25mpg+/9's@150mph goal
https://lateral-g.net/forums/showthread.php4?t=52976

1993 Mazda FD RX-7, built LS7, T56 Magnum, Holley HP, Davis Tech TC, 8.8" 3.73 Cobra IRS diff, DSS axles, Ohlins coilovers, big brakes.
CCW 18x11 front 315/30/18's and 18x12.5 rear on 335/30/18 RA1's, 2850lbs
10.31@137mph 165mph Shift-Sector 1/2 mile speed
441ci AllPro headed motor and 200lb weigh reduction in the works....
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 01-29-2019, 11:31 AM
rickpaw rickpaw is offline
Lateral-g Supporting Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Houston, Tx
Posts: 854
Thanks: 3
Thanked 11 Times in 10 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by gnx7 View Post
In all the T56, T56 Magnum (TR6060) conversions I do we run a 7/8" bore MC.

I have also found that the slaves once depressurized have a high likelihood of failure.... meaning I never install a used one unless it is 6 months old.

Start with the MC replacement and if the new one that doesn't leak works... run it. If not... replace the slave also.
The McLeod m/c adapter uses a wilwood 3/4" m/c that been modified to fit their bracket, so I have to stick with 3/4" for now.

Yeah, I should have replaced the slave when I was putting it together. But I was over budget, so was trying to save $$. Good thing it's only my time.

So I replaced the m/c, no change. So dropping the trans and replace the slave is next.
__________________
Tu Ho
67 Firebird (aka "Money Pit")-5.3/4l60e, restomod.
https://lateral-g.net/forums/showthread.php4?t=43170
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 02-06-2019, 06:27 PM
71RS/SS396's Avatar
71RS/SS396 71RS/SS396 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Wake Forest,NC
Posts: 869
Thanks: 1
Thanked 3 Times in 2 Posts
Default

I've had the same Ram slave in my car for 7 years with zero issues with it on the hydraulic side, I had to replace the push on bearing once. I've not had much luck with the McCleod slaves living very long. I've had the best luck with Tilton masters. If your master had a short life I would double check your alignment to the clutch pedal, they don't like to be side loaded.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 02-07-2019, 11:54 AM
rickpaw rickpaw is offline
Lateral-g Supporting Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Houston, Tx
Posts: 854
Thanks: 3
Thanked 11 Times in 10 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by 71RS/SS396 View Post
I've had the same Ram slave in my car for 7 years with zero issues with it on the hydraulic side, I had to replace the push on bearing once. I've not had much luck with the McCleod slaves living very long. I've had the best luck with Tilton masters. If your master had a short life I would double check your alignment to the clutch pedal, they don't like to be side loaded.
Tim,
The slave is original GM that came with the transmission. The McCleod kit came with pre-drilled clutch pedal, and the alignment looks to be dead on. If this still does not work, I'll switch to DSE set up with Tilton 7/8" master.

I already dropped the tranny, and it's wet around the fittings on the tick remote bleeder line. I was able to tighten it 1/8 of a turn. Think that's part of the issue. I'm going to replace the slave/clutch set up (unknown miles) with a slave/LS7 clutch set up.

Does any one know whether the Centerforce DYAD clutch can be rebuilt? A guy at Centerforce told me it can't be rebuilt, and I found it hard to believe.
__________________
Tu Ho
67 Firebird (aka "Money Pit")-5.3/4l60e, restomod.
https://lateral-g.net/forums/showthread.php4?t=43170
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:56 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Copyright Lateral-g.net