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pokey64 · #**2231** 06-20-2011, 01:47 PM

The G-Link manual says to weld the bracket in place. It's a bolt/weld combo.

Vegas69 · #**2232** 06-20-2011, 02:23 PM

I've also heard Bret at Ride Tech mention to weld in an air bar(same as g bar) under extreme conditions.

Bottom line is we have a cracked frame and broken frame with both set ups.

Payton King · #**2233** 06-20-2011, 02:28 PM

the lower control arms and shock mounts. Eliminate upper bars and build a torque arm and you will not have to worry about that problem again.

Just a thought

ironworks · #**2234** 06-20-2011, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Vegas69

I've also heard Bret at Ride Tech mention to weld in an air bar(same as g bar) under extreme conditions.

Bottom line is we have a cracked frame and broken frame with both set ups.

In reality, If you beat on stuff to the point it was never intended. It will break. You can put whatever suspension into these cars and in may live in most situations. But sometimes things break.

**fleetus macmullitz** · #**2235** 06-20-2011, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by ironworks

It cracked right next to the weld, there is some fancy word about embrittlement issues that goes with what happened with old metal and new and heat embrittlement blah blah blah.

But at the end of the day, when you beat on cars they just break sooner then later.

Now's a good time to put Doc Renner's unpatented panel gap spray to its biggest test.

**GregWeld** · #**2236** 06-20-2011, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by syborg tt

Okay so I now have a question

What about using the bolts & panel bonding glue ( fusor ) instead of welding ??

Doesn't change the stress loads... and if the bolts don't hold it - the glue ain't going to either. You're just trying to take the heat out of the equation... But PERSONALLY I think the real issue is 500 #'s of TQ and big azz tire loads on a part that was designed for a 6 banger...

Drag racers back half the cars....

Big HP and TQ cars need to build in far stronger support with these super sticky tires... Remember -- these cars are just sheet metal crap.

**Rybar** · #**2237** 06-20-2011, 05:29 PM

Sorry to hear that this happened Todd and glad you found out before warping any body panels and needing paint. This does worry me with my new G-link but I doubt I will ever find time to beat on my car as much as you do yours. Glad it can be fixed.

**syborg tt** · #**2238** 06-20-2011, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by GregWeld

Doesn't change the stress loads... and if the bolts don't hold it - the glue ain't going to either. You're just trying to take the heat out of the equation... But PERSONALLY I think the real issue is 500 #'s of TQ and big azz tire loads on a part that was designed for a 6 banger...

Drag racers back half the cars....

Big HP and TQ cars need to build in far stronger support with these super sticky tires... Remember -- these cars are just sheet metal crap.

There would be less chance of welding affecting the metal

johnny68 · #**2239** 06-20-2011, 07:17 PM

Todd hate to hear it and look at it im sorry dude may call Blake over at speed tech and do the torque arm deal
john

Vegas69 · #**2240** 06-20-2011, 07:36 PM

With the abuse it's taken, I'm going to reinforce it and stick with what I have. I found the weak link and I'll fix it professionally and move on.

I'm with Greg, these frame rails are thin and GM engineers are probably rolling in their graves right now. If I have problems down the road, it will get thicker rails.