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Old 01-15-2011, 07:05 AM
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Another alternative. Great guy to deal with.
http://www.htpweld.com/products/tig_welders/tig201.html
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Old 01-15-2011, 07:21 AM
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As with most things - you get what you pay for.

While the HTP is "okay" --- when you cut thru the BS on this website about how little the machine draws vs output etc -- that's all "selling the features that you have to talk about"

Nothing "wrong" with this... everyone does it. BUT - Huge BUTT...

This machine has a 35% duty cycle below 100 amps.... that means you can weld for 3.5 minutes out of every 10. My Miller Dynasty (admittedly not in the same league) has a 100% duty cycle below 100 amps.

Having said all of that --- I probably never weld for 3.5 minutes at one time - but you do weld for 10 minutes with lots of starting and stoping to reposition etc. But a 35% duty cycle would mean I can only weld for one minute in every 3 and that SUCKS BILGE WATER (an old boater phrase).

For home use - I think the machine would work just fine. But be sure what you're buying and really compare specs -- some of them are very important.
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Old 01-15-2011, 07:33 AM
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^


I mis-read the specs on this machine - so I must eat crow and retract my statement on the duty cycle. It IS 100% on this machine below 100 amps.... Sorry - MY MISTAKE!


I wanted to leave my original post about duty cycle up - rather than just slink off and delete it because the duty cycle is an issue and spec that should be compared. To someone reading this thread - it might be something they wouldn't otherwise think about. And for me - that is what these forums are all about. Helping and learning and sharing.

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I bought the Miller Diversion 180 at SEMA. I have not tried it yet but a friend came over that had never tig welded before, read the "Tig Welding for Dummies" book that comes with it and he was making nice looking welds within a hour. Nice piece for home use. And it is nice being able to do 110 or 220 volt by just changing the plug .
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Old 01-15-2011, 11:31 AM
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I bought the Miller Diversion 180 at SEMA. I have not tried it yet but a friend came over that had never tig welded before, read the "Tig Welding for Dummies" book that comes with it and he was making nice looking welds within a hour. Nice piece for home use. And it is nice being able to do 110 or 220 volt by just changing the plug .
This is one of the best bang for the buck in a small tig machine.My son Kevin is also looking at a small tig and this is the one I said he should look at.One thing to think about is getting the machine worked on if something go's wrong.Miller's are made right here in the go old USA.HTP I think are made in Italy.HTP Part's have to came along way.Your local weldsuppy house can fix the miller,HTP will prob.need to get shiped some where.
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Thanks for all the info Greg & Scott. Charlie, let me know how you like the Diversion 180 when you use it. Stick welding is not important to me, but tig welding sheetmetal and aluminum is.
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Anyone has experience with Thermal Arc products? They look to have a player.

http://www.thermadyne.com/thermalarc...dID=10-3073A-2
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Are you going to take a welding class or just practice?
After looking at some of the fab work on here and some other sites I visit, I want to learn to do this
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Anyone has experience with Thermal Arc products? They look to have a player.

http://www.thermadyne.com/thermalarc...dID=10-3073A-2
I have the Thermal Arc 185 and I love it. I have had it for over 4 years and I use it almost everyday.
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Are you going to take a welding class or just practice?
After looking at some of the fab work on here and some other sites I visit, I want to learn to do this
I am going to practice. I understand the basics of tig welding. My plan is to practice on scraps of steel & aluminum until I am happy with the look, etc and then use it to build a few shop projects, etc.
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