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Old 07-11-2013, 09:55 PM
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OMG Rob,

Those wheels are really nice looking. Light too.
It's about time you got back!!!! Hope you had a good trip
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Old 07-11-2013, 10:33 PM
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It's about time you got back!!!! Hope you had a good trip
We did. We had fun hanging with my Formula car buddy Neil Porter as he ran 4 cars at Sears Point.

Then my girls & I went camping for 5 days. Fun stuff.

Thanks for the race video. Good stuff.
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Old 07-11-2013, 10:44 PM
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OMG Rob,

Those wheels are really nice looking. Light too.
Yes way light for wheels that size.

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Rob,

I did incorrectly assume your wider tires in the rear would have narrowed the rear TW. Thanks for clarifying your car is different. You're on the right track that the wider rear TW will free/loosen up the car..

If your measurements are right ... front TW 55.25" & rear at 58" ... the math ... 1.75" more TW in the rear ... doesn't jive. That would be 2.75" more TW in the rear.

Would you please confirm the numbers, so we're talking on the same page ?

Thanks !
Welcome back Glad to hear the trip was good.

And I incorrectly stated the difference in TW was 1.75" but it is 2.75" I didn't measure these but calculated them based on the hub to hub distance and the wheel offsets.

The Panhard bar is 8" off the ground and level.
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Old 07-12-2013, 12:12 AM
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And I incorrectly stated the difference in TW was 1.75" but it is 2.75" I didn't measure these but calculated them based on the hub to hub distance and the wheel offsets.

The Panhard bar is 8" off the ground and level.
Hi Rob,

I don't recall working on a car with the rear trackwidth that much wider than the front. But, before I go off on one of my long explanations ... ... I had better get clear on what you want to discuss.

Do you want to talk about:
a. What the optimum set-up would be ... including tire size ... if their were no self imposed limits?
b. Tuning options to help balance handling with 21% more tire in the rear?
c. Age of the blonde in my wheel photo?
d. Something else?

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Old 07-12-2013, 12:25 AM
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Hi Rob,

I don't recall working on a car with the rear trackwidth that much wider than the front. But, before I go off on one of my long explanations ... ... I had better get get clear on what you want to discuss.

Do you want to talk about:
a. What the optimum set-up would be ... including tire size ... if their were no self imposed limits?
b. Tuning options to help balance handling with 21% more tire in the rear?
c. Age of the blonde in my wheel photo?
d. Something else?

Welcome back Ron! I vote 'C' plus phone number, website and personal preferences....unless you're related lol.
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Old 07-12-2013, 12:26 AM
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Ron,

I think I speak for many when I say we're all glad you're back to create a diversion from the incessant trash talking.

And since we have the famous Ron in Socal and the infamous Rob in Socal, would you please do us a favor and add to your sig "Ron in Norcal"?

That is all, thanks.
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Hi Rob,

I don't recall working on a car with the rear trackwidth that much wider than the front. But, before I go off on one of my long explanations ... ... I had better get get clear on what you want to discuss.

Do you want to talk about:
a. What the optimum set-up would be ... including tire size ... if their were no self imposed limits?
b. Tuning options to help balance handling with 21% more tire in the rear?
c. Age of the blonde in my wheel photo?
d. Something else?

No reason to avoid

a. ?

Plenty of people would want to hear that.

For sure let's go with the hard one.

b. ?
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Old 07-12-2013, 12:32 AM
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Welcome back Ron! I vote 'C' plus phone number, website and personal preferences....unless you're related lol.
You're funny Ron.

She's a slightly famous model friend we have used for promos for several years. The answers are: 25, BR-549, no website ...but she should, likes & has a Dodge 4x4 truck that she works on herself.
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No reason to avoid

a. ?

Plenty of people would want to hear that.

For sure let's go with the hard one.

b. ?

Okie Dokie ...

* Rob corrected the track difference to 2.10"

a. With the 2.10" wider rear track width ... assuming it places the tires out near the fenders already ... if you were to put the same size tires on the car ... you would need to move the front tires outward. I'm assuming this would take custom fender work or flares, which is fine for this conversation, but not what you want to do. Ultimately, you would want the track width to be the same or a little wider in the front ... with same size tires.

b. With the 2.10" wider rear track width ... assuming it places the tires out near the fenders already & where you want them ... and the front tires are 285's & the rear's 345's ... we need to balance a car with 21% more tire in the rear.

We need to MAXIMIZE the front tire grip ... and reduce the rear tire grip on corner entry & Middle. Entry will be easy. Middle is always the toughest. I'll answer this in a few posts.
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Okie Dokie ...

* Rob corrected the track difference to 2.10"

a. With the 2.0" wider rear track width ... assuming it places the tires out near the fenders already ... if you were to put the same size tires on the car ... you would need to move the front tires outward. I'm assuming this would take custom fender work or flares, which is fine for this conversation, but not what you want to do. Ultimately, you would want the track width to be the same or a little wider in the front ... with same size tires.

b. With the 2.0" wider rear track width ... assuming it places the tires out near the fenders already & where you want them ... and the front tires are 285's & the rear's 345's ... we need to balance a car with 21% more tire in the rear.

We need to MAXIMIZE the front tire grip ... and reduce the rear tire grip on corner entry & Middle. Entry will be easy. Middle is always the toughest. I'll answer this in a few posts.
Ron Sorry about the bad numbers. I think a few to many long days at work . I wanted to catch you on the PM before you used my bad number. We are basically at a 2" difference.

Maybe it's the Elephant.
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