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Old 08-26-2015, 01:50 PM
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See... Just like I said...
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It all makes sense, like most of your posts though I need to digest it to be able to apply it
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Listening to anyone other than A 6 time CP National Champion would be rather pointless.

Therefore, contact Mike Maier of Mike Maier Inc. He's leaving for Wisconsin tomorrow for Optima Event at Road America but will be back in the office on Tuesday. He'll then be leaving again later next week fo the SCCA solo National in Lincoln Nebraska where if he wins, he'll hold the record for most overall National Championships in CP with 7. Right now he's tied for the most.
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Listening to anyone other than A 6 time CP National Champion would be rather pointless.

Therefore, contact Mike Maier of Mike Maier Inc. He's leaving for Wisconsin tomorrow for Optima Event at Road America but will be back in the office on Tuesday. He'll then be leaving again later next week fo the SCCA solo National in Lincoln Nebraska where if he wins, he'll hold the record for most overall National Championships in CP with 7. Right now he's tied for the most.
pointless? Not following.

Auto cross road course and street all tune different. In my opinion Auto x is a completely different animal when it comes to tuning and suspension design.

With the technology in chassis rigidity, shock tuning, shock valving and accurate spring rates going on now you can get away with less bar. Let your geometry work.
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I totally agree autocross setup is different than any other form of Motorsports.

Ron, how many SCCA autocross nationals champions are using your setup or advice? Who?


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I totally agree autocross setup is different than any other form of Motorsports.

Ron, how many SCCA autocross nationals champions are using your setup or advice? Who?


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easy scooter! Ron's pretty new to the autocross culture....give him a few and we will see top cars using his designs and theory's another 2 or 3 years...hey a title isn't everything, i know a guy who has a national champ win (trophy and record books to prove it) and he was in a class of one so he won by default, and you look at his times for the event he was slower than novice ladies last placer.....but hey he can still claim a title as an SCCA National Champion and you know me Scott and I don't have that claim...and I can still point you in the right direction when your building your car
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big bar/soft spring?

for me...I run my 68 Camaro with 800 lb front springs and the DSE sway bar...my upper control arms pivot point has been moved from stock (modified Guldstrand) and that creates a jacking effect so essentially my car is in camber moment at all times...the lower control arm has the shock mount moved closer to the ball joint than standard arms....and the triple adjust front shocks i have run a digressive piston....on the rear I run a 325 spring and the triple adjust rear shocks i have run a digressive piston, I use the Helwig Protour rear bar....the weight of my car is 3150 with full interior, radio, heater and Cage the engine is a 6.0 LS.....

my set up is big bar/medium spring


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I totally agree autocross setup is different than any other form of Motorsports.

Ron, how many SCCA autocross nationals champions are using your setup or advice? Who?


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Ron comes here and offers his knowledge, and you berate him, nice work.
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pointless? Not following.

Auto cross road course and street all tune different. In my opinion Auto x is a completely different animal when it comes to tuning and suspension design.

With the technology in chassis rigidity, shock tuning, shock valving and accurate spring rates going on now you can get away with less bar. Let your geometry work.
The OP specificly said he'd be running C prepared, or CP as I put it. So yeah, talking to anyone other than a 6 time national CP Champion is in my mind pointless.

Also, Mike took his "autocross" setup to Sears Point for the Shelby Nationals and was in the top 5 of times but was the only one in the top 5 on a 200tw tire. So, in my option autocross, road racing and street driving can all use the same suspension settings.

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