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Old 04-10-2012, 04:38 PM
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Default Hydraboost or Elec Vacuum Pump?

Going to require a vacuum "assist" solution in trying to avoid sharing the MAP sensor vacuum source with the booster in my 4th gen fbody. Kinsler HIGHLY suggests in order to keep the MAP "quiet" I need to dedicate sourcing the intake vacuum and brakes/steering seperately. Because I'd rather not compromise either in terms of performance, does anyone have experience with either? I heard Elec Vac Pumps can be noisy and unreliable....thoughts? Sources for either?

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Ask anyone with a Grand National about what they think of electric vacuum brake pumps. My buddy replaced two and then gave up and drives his without one. He's going over to Hydra boost.
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Personal opinion Shube....hydroboost done right will remind you to wear seat belts for facial protection. Not sure who the leader is for fourth gens, but Hydratech is a leader in old car retrofits:

Paul M. Clark
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Hydroboost...if you've got a questionable vacuum situation, I'd just remove it from the equation.

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Ask anyone with a Grand National about what they think of electric vacuum brake pumps. My buddy replaced two and then gave up and drives his without one. He's going over to Hydra boost.
Lol, had a couple myself...but never had to deal with it. Noted....

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Hydroboost...if you've got a questionable vacuum situation, I'd just remove it from the equation.

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Personal opinion Shube....hydroboost done right will remind you to wear seat belts for facial protection. Not sure who the leader is for fourth gens, but Hydratech is a leader in old car retrofits:

Paul M. Clark
Hydratech Braking Systems
http://www.hydratechbraking.com/
Haha...my man! Just talked to Jim over there today Appears they can have one in my paws in a couple weeks! Cuttin in CLOSE to PT though!!!

Oooh and there's a shiney option too!!

http://www.hydratechbraking.com/GM_4thgenF_Body.html

It doesnt make sense to put those big 'ol binders up front without them making your nose bleed when you gotta stop right?
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There is no doubt that hydroboost will give you more than enough power to lock up the front wheels, but how do you want the pedal to feel? I've heard hydroboost setups have a "light" pedal feel. Maybe that is something someone else can elaborate on. Personally, I like good ol' fashioned manual brakes, when they're done right.

Really, you just have to figure out what is right for you based on you intended purpose for the car, etc.

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Haha...my man! Just talked to Jim over there today Appears they can have one in my paws in a couple weeks! Cuttin in CLOSE to PT though!!!

Oooh and there's a shiney option too!!

http://www.hydratechbraking.com/GM_4thgenF_Body.html

It doesnt make sense to put those big 'ol binders up front without them making your nose bleed when you gotta stop right?
I ordered my hydroboost unit from Jim @ Hydratech for my 3rd gen F-body (with show-prep) and It looks really good. Jim's a good guy to deal with as well.
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^^^ Just ordered it this afternoon!!

Thanks again Jim! (I know you're reading this )
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Regarding pedal feel, Hydroboost has a phenomenal feel.
You can actually feel the pedal "talk" to you- takes a little to get used to, we use 'em all the time and customers are elated!

Factoid: most all brake systems put about 800psi to the calipers/pads, Hydroboost systems give about 1200psi. That equates to 50% better braking pressure

Paul @ HydraTech is the man!
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Bad ass set-up! Just got it this afternoon. Can not wait to get this in place......Thanks again to Jim and the Hydratech team!!


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