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Old 01-27-2009, 10:48 PM
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Default cheap subframe?

From what i have gotten on here is dse is the way to go. Hiedts is the red headed step child thats no good. What about Art morrison, or "totalcost involved"? Because i would love to do the dse subframe but i just dont have 7 grand laying around to do it. Are there any cheaper subframes that are still good quality? I want the total package 12 or 13 in brakes a arms just about everything to put me on the road. Its for a 68 camaro.

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Old 01-27-2009, 11:08 PM
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Are there cheaper subframes? Yes, the stock subframe. Why do you think you need an aftermarket subframe?
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because i want somthing that handles well and can carve corners and from what i hear thats the only way to go but im very new to this so by all means if im wrong please school me.
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Art Morrison is very nice as well as Speed Tech.....it really depends on if you want aftermarket control arms or C5/C6 arms, what your budget and over all goal is. These frames as well as DSE's allow for large brakes and wide tires and have rack & pinion steering. They all have different geometry gains over stock. Also, Jake's Rod Shop is now offering a subframe.

Speed Tech fit my needs.
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Old 01-27-2009, 11:16 PM
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The stock frame can be worked over to handel well...but you will always be limited to tire width...if you want full turning radious. It just comes down to what you want out of the end product...and what your budget allows.
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Old 01-27-2009, 11:18 PM
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i do want the c5 or c6 brakes and aswell as rack & pinion steering i want to do the full pro touring treatment i was hopeing to do this for around 3 grand but by the looks of things its not gonna happen
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Old 01-27-2009, 11:32 PM
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i do want the c5 or c6 brakes and aswell as rack & pinion steering i want to do the full pro touring treatment i was hopeing to do this for around 3 grand but by the looks of things its not gonna happen
Again, why do you want a rack? Have you considered upgrading your steering box? I'm not opposed to aftermarket - I've got a 21st Century Street Machine subframe and the LD 3 link (the best of the best) in a '68 project that's in paint jail now; but "aftermarket subframe" and "budget" just don't go together, because any of the pro-touring subframes are going to be in the $6k-$7k range.

Carl Casanova has 275-45-17's on his stock subframed car. Many of us are running 245-45-17's and C5 brakes on our stock subframed cars.

If you want to see what these cars can do, come up for the "Cruise the Crest" event in Los Angeles on February 15th. (Look at the Pro-touring board.) You'll have to get up REALLY early, but you may decide the stock subframe will be just fine.
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3k budget....you need to mod the stock sub and you will much better off.
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Yeah i might just do that cause my only other options would be to try to find used or save..
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i have looked on this web site for the pro touring board to get more info on that "cruise the crest" event but cant seem to find it because i would really be interested in going to that
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