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Old 11-30-2018, 09:38 PM
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So after Thanksgiving - I went up to get the Secret Sauced and Optimized $200,000 “Track Warrior” so I could haul it over to SpeedTech in St. George, Utah

Within a minute of lifting the hood off.... The guys start seeing the mess they have to deal with.

The front brake line had about 2 or 3 more laps before it was cut thru - they’re rubbing on the inside of the wheels because they’re in a bad location.

Almost all the Plumbing is wrong. We’ll discuss this in more detail later.

PCV vent isn’t used with a dry sump - but that’s what Sutton and crew did

Wiring will be redone....it looks like kindergarten class....

The 2000* header coating is burnt completely off a couple cylinders

The power steering pump (KRC) is toast - and the fluid looks like a milkshake. There is NO P/S cooler.

The steering stops apparently are the shocks

The rear axle bearings add camber when loaded

The serpentine belt system is out of alignment - the belt has ground all the black anodizing off the water pump pulley - and is slipping out over the crank pulley.

So — worse than imagined - and I had imagined pretty pee poor workmanship.

Mind you - they’ve only had the car a couple days - so this is just the beginning.

For those of you still thinking Sutton is “the man” — good luck with that.
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I don’t understand the rear bearings adding camber...is the id or od of the bearing incorrect or in 15 laps has something failed?

Is this an assessment of how bad or a rebuild regardless? Either way I’m glad this is at a reputable shop with guys that know how things work. I’ll be curious to see what happens with the suspension with everything that’s been learned in the last few months...lower control arms design, 3 link ****ery, craftsmanship.

Hopefully the ****show can turn into something enjoyable on track.
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Wow, sorry to hear that Greg.
Sounds like the SpeedTech guys are experienced enough to get it fixed properly.

I'm in for part two of this saga.
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Old 12-01-2018, 03:13 PM
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I don’t understand the rear bearings adding camber...is the id or od of the bearing incorrect or in 15 laps has something failed?

Is this an assessment of how bad or a rebuild regardless? Either way I’m glad this is at a reputable shop with guys that know how things work. I’ll be curious to see what happens with the suspension with everything that’s been learned in the last few months...lower control arms design, 3 link ****ery, craftsmanship.

Hopefully the ****show can turn into something enjoyable on track.
Car uses a FULL FLOATER rear end —- my guess is —- just one more part that neither Sutton nor the “assemblers” knew anything about..... So my guess is —- wrong assembly or wrong spec (suttonized dog crap)..... But I haven’t asked all these details yet — to me — it’s not important what was wrong (everything) — it’s only important that SPEEDTECHS guys know what they’re doing and are even good enough to spot the issues to begin with..... Something Sutton nor the dickheads were.

HE was brilliant and knew everything about every aspect of every part ever made —— just ask him —— well - never mind — he told you whether you wanted to hear it or not. LOL

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Still optimistic about being able to salvage most of whats there GW...?

That's a brave group of guys willing to step into something with so many issues.


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Whew, this will be interesting
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Still optimistic about being able to salvage most of whats there GW...?

That's a brave group of guys willing to step into something with so many issues.


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Yeah Jeff —- I think the basic “bones” are okay — thank god a real shop did the cage work.... We’ll look at every weld on the chassis part (done by Suttons buddy - Randy)...... and all the gusseting etc will be checked...... The transmission is okay..... Motor goes to Kurt Urban for rebuild — wiring will be redone — they used the nastiest cheapest stiffest crap you could find at O’Reilly’s..... rather than quality automotive stuff.... Rear suspension will (MAYBE) be converted to a simple 3 link..... They’ll look to see if we can save any of the front.... and have it be SAFE and effective.... The body will be the LAST thing on the list.... and that will be a “just attempt to clean it up a little - rip off the crap wrap - and scuff it and shoot it white with blue stripes..... cheap and race car dirty...... We’ve talked about laying the radiator over and building some venting thru the hood.... and taking the oil cooler OUT of the radiator (plug it off) and adding a real actual oil cooler..... So mostly all simple little fixes — but it’s all TIME and $$$$...... and a complete and utter waste of both of those commodities. Thank you dickhead “mister race car” —- The more we find the madder I get.....
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to me — it’s not important what was wrong (everything) — it’s only important that SPEEDTECHS guys know what they’re doing and are even good enough to spot the issues to begin with.
Greg, you always amaze me with your positive attitude in times of... extreme adversity. I try to maintain the same attitude myself and I really respect that trait in a person.




If SpeedTech's work is remotely as good as their pictures are (sadly I've never knowingly seen one of their builds in person) you are in great hands. ...now if they would just hurry up and post up some destruction / rebuild pictures so those playing at home can learn how to build a proper car.
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Greg, I’ts hurtful to find out that it’s worse than you thought. Honestly, I thought that the car was already over there. As you already know, it’s in good hands now, and I’m looking forward to seeing progress being made. Hopefully come spring you’ll have a capable, race ready rocket.
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Good deal, Greg. I'm glad it's in good hands with Blake and his crew. St George should be closer to you now too, correct? Keep us posted.
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