Matt,
Outstanding job! You drove so well!
Want to swap trophies??? You can keep the second place packet.
PM your address to me.
David

I dunno. Bill said I placed 3rd and handed me a packet. I think it had a Baer gift certificate.

So the shootout is the road course part? How was this done? How many laps, Best lap used? Average of three?

Huh.. that's odd.

I have a pic of Matt getting the 2nd place overall trophy and of David getting third.

That must of been for the third place best autocross time (non vendor).

Anyways, I'm sure it will get all sorted out.

Great seeing you again at the event and that's one bad ass Camaro you have there. I reviewed the photoshoot and the pictures came out stunning, even the one with you in it. lol

In the morning all the cars made qualifying laps to try and get in the top 15. In the afternoon the top 15 each made three laps (or 7 minutes, not sure) and THAT best time counted. So, even if your shootout time was slower than your qualifying time that's what was used.

Then that best shootout time was added to your best autocross time and that gave the number to determine who the overall winner was.

Not really trying to get into the middle of this, but my opinion is that you should have an Owner class, Vendor class, and Professional driver class. If you're not the owner, you are automatically put in the pro class. I don't think any of us want to compete against Scott Pruett..etc as an owner.

Let's just say the whole thing is complicated and let's agree that there's no way to make everyone happy.

Go look at any racing organization.. they have HUGE rule books for a reason. lol

If Dale Jr. shows up with HIS second gen and kicks ass is it because the car was best of because Dale Jr was driving?

If Dale is driving a slow car and I beat him in a better car does that make me a better driver than him?

I personally err on the side of making the event about the cars. We all want to see them pushed as hard as possible. This was the inagural event and I'm sure the rules will be tweaked and refined over time.

Let's worry less about awards and more about how much fun it was. I didn't see anyone "babying" thier cars, everyone was pretty much beating the snot out of them, both pros and joes...

Good reply Steve!
 

All things are not created equal, Rules, drivers, tires. A lot of factors make up the whole package.

Mark

Guys, please. This is not a Rules discussion thread. Too many cooks spoil the broth, so rules will not be decided in an open forum. That method never works. There is NO current plans for Pro vs Joe separation. Maybe down the line. But for now, we ran our cars hard, had some fun and kept track of times.

As for Charlie Lillard's 3rd place award. There's no confusion. Independent of the Time Trial and Touring class wins listed above, we handed out some additional gift certificates for best individual road course lap and best individual auto-x time. We did that so that more people could get awards.

For example, Dave Pozzi's combined time suffered because of his road course shootout performance. His road course shootout performance suffered because of brake problems. But he knocked it out of the park on the Auto-X with a sub 30 second run. So even though he didn't win the Time Trial class, he got a gift certificate for his auto-x result.

So Charlie got third place (non vendor) autocross? Cool...

hey, things don't always go as planned in racing... I would have been smarter for me not to drive in the finals and let the car be "fresh" for Pozzi.. but "smart" isn't always "fun" so I said screw that, I wanna drive! lol