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geberhard 12-11-2012 02:18 PM

Sure LS are efficient and bst bang for buck, cheap to build, plentiful yada yada. BUT they are becoming commonplace. I am seeing everything with LS engines on car shows and get togethers. SEMA had 50k cars with LS engines. It is not entirely a bad thing, opens the doors to more products which in turn (theoretically) should help lower their cost.

The cost of building or rebudiling a 350, 383 or 400 block is hard to compare when youc na have bigger gains on a cheapo ls and light alum block.

LS are greta and all but they are becoming too common. I have two projects with LS engines, and honestly struggled with the idea on turning one into a LS setup but was hard to pass doing a swap for virtually free, compared to building a 400 Pontiac engine to get to a similar level.

Will be cool to see more cars going back to roots engine builds, or heck even seeing matchig numbers cars racing.

WSSix 12-11-2012 02:19 PM

I'll have to check out the magazine to see the car in question.

WSSix 12-11-2012 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by geberhard (Post 451272)
Sure LS are efficient and bst bang for buck, cheap to build, plentiful yada yada. BUT they are becoming commonplace. I am seeing everything with LS engines on car shows and get togethers. SEMA had 50k cars with LS engines. It is not entirely a bad thing, opens the doors to more products which in turn (theoretically) should help lower their cost.

The cost of building or rebudiling a 350, 383 or 400 block is hard to compare when youc na have bigger gains on a cheapo ls and light alum block.

LS are greta and all but they are becoming too common. I have two projects with LS engines, and honestly struggled with the idea on turning one into a LS setup but was hard to pass doing a swap for virtually free, compared to building a 400 Pontiac engine to get to a similar level.

Will be cool to see more cars going back to roots engine builds, or heck even seeing matchig numbers cars racing.

These are the same thoughts I have bouncing around in my head with my car. I think I might look into building my LT1 on the cheap and just enjoying the car just to be different. Might need to build some unnatural aspiration though to make power that will grab some attention. Ah, if money wasn't limited.

DOOM 12-11-2012 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by WSSix (Post 451275)
These are the same thoughts I have bouncing around in my head with my car. I think I might look into building my LT1 on the cheap and just enjoying the car just to be different. Might need to build some unnatural aspiration though to make power that will grab some attention. Ah, if money wasn't limited.

Trey...I see nothing wrong with that thought! I'll take a well tuned small block anyday!! The old school small block Chevy is still the king in my heart.

Vegas69 12-11-2012 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 451233)
Obviously, Todd wasn't consulted before printing.

:yes: I had 400 hp in high school.

I agree with Dave, they need to sell magazines. It's a really nice car.

Big Red is my pick as well.

DOOM 12-11-2012 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Vegas69 (Post 451280)
:yes: I had 400 hp in high school.

I agree with Dave, they need to sell magazines. It's a really nice car.

Big Red is my pick as well.

Big Red will always be king!

WSSix 12-11-2012 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by DOOM (Post 451279)
Trey...I see nothing wrong with that thought! I'll take a well tuned small block anyday!! The old school small block Chevy is still the king in my heart.

One of the best sounding engines I have ever built was a simple 355 using a nice torquey hydraulic Elgin cam, low buck roller tip rockers, Edelbrock heads, hooker headers, and magnaflow mufflers. The exhaust note was great but the mechanical noises off the engine itself drew people everywhere it went. It just had that badass hotrod sound. It really help complete the overall feel of the car. LSx engines sound like sowing machines :D

I've thought about going solid roller on the LT1 just for the fun of it too. Solid roller cams are fun for getting people's attention. Dave, do you agree, lol?

To me and others, sound is a huge part of what makes a muscle car/hot rod. I guess it's just another way to back up the image or theme of the car. I remember Bob Johnson(GForce Cuda) saying that when talking about why he chose to put big inch Aluminum engines in some of his Camaros. It wasn't just about the power. A 500+ inch big block just has a powerful sound to it. I'm sure Todd will agree with that opinion.

Flash68 12-11-2012 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Vegas69 (Post 451280)
:yes: I had 400 hp in high school.

That's the best you can do? :unibrow:

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Originally Posted by WSSix (Post 451291)
One of the best sounding engines I have ever built was a simple 355 using a nice torquey hydraulic Elgin cam, low buck roller tip rockers, Edelbrock heads, hooker headers, and magnaflow mufflers. The exhaust note was great but the mechanical noises off the engine itself drew people everywhere it went. It just had that badass hotrod sound. It really help complete the overall feel of the car. LSx engines sound like sowing machines :D

I've thought about going solid roller on the LT1 just for the fun of it too. Solid roller cams are fun for getting people's attention. Dave, do you agree, lol?

To me and others, sound is a huge part of what makes a muscle car/hot rod. I guess it's just another way to back up the image or theme of the car. I remember Bob Johnson(GForce Cuda) saying that when talking about why he chose to put big inch Aluminum engines in some of his Camaros. It wasn't just about the power. A 500+ inch big block just has a powerful sound to it. I'm sure Todd will agree with that opinion.

Right on man... right on. :thumbsup:

fleet 12-11-2012 07:40 PM

I was thinking cars driven both on the street and track so the baddest '69 that came to mind was this one.



The ZL-1 powered '69 that Todd built and just sold was the next one I thought of.

One LS and one non-LS seems fair. :cool:


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