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SLO_Z28 07-25-2010 02:31 AM

Very interested! Keep us updated on that!

vdrivinmike 07-25-2010 10:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gonzo (Post 281464)

Cris:

What wheel is this?:hail:

SS1156 07-26-2010 01:20 AM

I don't mean to hijack, but since you guys are all great with 2nd gens how big of a wheel & tire can you go under an unmodified wheeltub? I'm thinking of getting a 71 that's a nice driver. I can't afford to minitub it right now but it needs the 15x7's removed in a bad way. I was thinking of 17 or 18 x 9 or 10 in the back, is that possible? I'm going to lower it but not near as low as the awesome Gold Z. I just want to take the gap out between the tire and wheel opening on the qtr. Again, sorry to interrupt.

SLO_Z28 07-26-2010 06:41 AM

10 inch wheel is no problem, wearing a 295 with no mods, or a 315 if you roll the fender lip.
http://www.kore3.com/images/customer...amaro_1_sm.jpg
Here is a 315 on a car with only the lip rolled.

SS1156 07-27-2010 02:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SLO_Z28 (Post 298124)
10 inch wheel is no problem, wearing a 295 with no mods, or a 315 if you roll the fender lip.
http://www.kore3.com/images/customer...amaro_1_sm.jpg
Here is a 315 on a car with only the lip rolled.

Thanks for the info. I might have a chance to trade my 93 Saleen for a true 73 Z28/ Type LT (73's version of the RS w/ split bumper) and I really didn't want to cut up the car but it definately needs MEATS under the car.

71RS/SS396 07-27-2010 06:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SLO_Z28 (Post 298124)
10 inch wheel is no problem, wearing a 295 with no mods, or a 315 if you roll the fender lip.
http://www.kore3.com/images/customer...amaro_1_sm.jpg
Here is a 315 on a car with only the lip rolled.

That all depends on how low the car sits.The lip is not usually the issue on 2nd gens the tire will hit the outer wheel well because of the way the quarter panel tapers back to the center of the car, if you look at the pick of Gonzo's car it looks like he has reshaped the area where it would contact.

Cris@JCG 07-27-2010 11:40 AM

19x12 forgeline on 345-30-19...

Quote:

Originally Posted by vdrivinmike (Post 298086)
Cris:

What wheel is this?:hail:


HWY Nova 07-27-2010 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gonzo (Post 297972)
Thanks Cory!

Here is another part that I am working on.. Always have hated modifying the original 2nd gen spindles to fit aftermarket brakes.. So we are making our own spindle..

http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/...LE4Default.jpg

Looks like a forging to me! Are you making these univeral enough to mount all brands of calipers????


--Eric

Cris@JCG 07-27-2010 12:53 PM

You caught that one Eric!

The spindle is designed as a forging.. It will be out of steel.. Right now it will use a stock Wilwood Camaro hub with a W6 Wilwood caliper.. I have it all designed & layed out but waiting to machine the first set.. The future is to use Impala custom hub with the large bearings.. Caliper brackets can be made to fit different calipers applications.. The steeing arms will be fabricated for different adjustments to the suspension mounting points..

http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/...RRING-ARM4.jpg

Quote:

Originally Posted by HWY Nova (Post 298363)
Looks like a forging to me! Are you making these univeral enough to mount all brands of calipers????


--Eric


71RS/SS396 07-27-2010 01:11 PM

Will the spindle and hub combo increase the track width? That is another negative to most of the aftermarket brake set-ups I've seen. It's hard enough with the stock track width to fit much tire on these cars if they are lowered.

Cris@JCG 07-27-2010 01:20 PM

No.. I can control hub to spindle placement @ this point.. Right now it sits about 3/8 in towards the spindle.. Lowers the car about 1 inch.. & a couple of other things that I will not disclose till prototypes are machined & fitted

At this time I am only making one set.. maybe two.. I don't know if I would take it any farther machining a set for my car.. Forging is expensive!! I could always sand cast like they did the orignals.. But $$$ for tooling is always a BIG factor!!

Quote:

Originally Posted by 71RS/SS396 (Post 298371)
Will the spindle and hub combo increase the track width? That is another negative to most of the aftermarket brake set-ups I've seen. It's hard enough with the stock track width to fit much tire on these cars if they are lowered.


89 RS 07-29-2010 11:30 PM

Again, very nice work man.

GregWeld 07-29-2010 11:52 PM

Subscribed...

How'd I miss this? Okay... don't answer that - it was rhetorical.

As usual Cris... way kool! :cheers:

Cris@JCG 07-30-2010 09:28 AM

I think you are just mad @ me cause I gave you a T-shirt that only fits one of your arms.. :D

BTW.. Thanks Greg!

Quote:

Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 298756)
Subscribed...

How'd I miss this? Okay... don't answer that - it was rhetorical.

As usual Cris... way kool! :cheers:


Cris@JCG 08-19-2010 03:16 PM

JCG/Speeedway Floater rear end
 
Got parts machined this week.. close to have the parking brake system work .. We will be using a radial mount Super Lite Wilwood caliper & 12.88 dia x .810 thk rotor.. Keeping rotational weight down..

http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/...n/IMG_0336.jpg

coolwelder62 08-19-2010 04:19 PM

Cris I love what you doing.Can't wait to see more.:thumbsup: Scott

tones2SS 08-19-2010 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by coolwelder62 (Post 301906)
Cris I love what you doing.Can't wait to see more.

I agree. Always something cool going on in that shop!:thumbsup:

Cris@JCG 08-31-2010 09:57 PM

Wilwood rear brakes
 
We finally got all the parts mocked up for the parking brake system for the floater rear-end.. Looks like the brakes on my dually!! :D

http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/...n/IMG_0366.jpg

http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/...n/IMG_0367.jpg

waynieZ 08-31-2010 10:42 PM

Wow Chris as usual awesome fab work.

XcYZ 09-01-2010 06:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gonzo (Post 303780)
We finally got all the parts mocked up for the parking brake system for the floater rear-end.. Looks like the brakes on my dually!! :D

lol, yep! Looks awesome!

Payton King 09-01-2010 07:46 AM

Very nice work
 
I bet there is no machine time in that. LOL

Are you using the Billet Super lights narrow calipers that take the 1.1 rotor?

I am almost afraid to ask how much to duplicate the hat....but I will?

Cris@JCG 09-01-2010 09:30 AM

We used as many off the shelf items from Wilwood... The calipers are Billet SL & the rotor is 1.10 thk..

With all the components I used ... You can go up to a W4A caliper & 14.25 rotor.. The final set up on my car will be .810 thk with 12.88 diameter... 1.12 or 1.25 on the bore size... Don't want all the rotational weight..

The hat is an off shelf item that has no bolt circle machined to it.. We took care of that & machined the flange to weld on the axle tube.. Cost on the hat ?? @ this time..

This whole set up is sitting on 1 degree of negitive camber!!

http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/...n/IMG_0368.jpg



Quote:

Originally Posted by Payton King (Post 303818)
I bet there is no machine time in that. LOL

Are you using the Billet Super lights narrow calipers that take the 1.1 rotor?

I am almost afraid to ask how much to duplicate the hat....but I will?


OLDFLM 09-01-2010 09:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gonzo (Post 301897)
Got parts machined this week.. close to have the parking brake system work .. We will be using a radial mount Super Lite Wilwood caliper & 12.88 dia x .810 thk rotor.. Keeping rotational weight down..

http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/...n/IMG_0336.jpg

That orange car in the background looks familiar! :thumbsup:

tones2SS 09-01-2010 10:11 AM

Looks very nice as usual, Cris!
Keep us posted.:cheers:

Payton King 09-02-2010 10:51 AM

Thanks for the STELLAR idea!
 
Plan on putting a floater in mine soon. I have that hat and parking brake assembly with the 1.1 Rotor.

May do what you did or go parking brake delete.

Cris@JCG 09-18-2010 10:59 AM

Stretch Completed!
 
I never thought we would get to work on my car with everything I got going on in the shop.. but we found some time to finish all the work the fab work on the rear of the car... We completed the qtr stretch & am very happy with the out come.. mini tubs are complete.. I was not going to do anything with the rear bumper but could not help myself.. We ended up re-doing the whole tail panel to fit the bumper.. We kept the bumper in stock configuration & just re-worked all the sheet metal...

Next steps are the firewall & rear suspension..

http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/...n/IMG_0440.jpg

http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/...n/IMG_0441.jpg

GregWeld 09-18-2010 11:58 AM

Cris!

Can I tell ya sumthin? :rofl:

It's a sickness buddy.... none of us can ever stop... we just have to surrender to the car god that makes us carry on.

Nice work - as usual! Now you know what your customers feel like when they finally see something "done" and in primer... :rofl: :rofl: :woot:

awr68 09-18-2010 01:35 PM

Very cool! Nice to see it in primer...stretch turned out great! Lot's of cool projects under the knife over there! How's Mary's car coming along?

waynieZ 09-18-2010 01:53 PM

Very nice.

War 09-18-2010 05:34 PM

So...where's the bumper?

tones2SS 09-18-2010 07:17 PM

That does look great Cris. Very nice work man!:thumbsup:

Stang's Bane 09-19-2010 12:06 PM

Can't wait to see this..

73CPCAMARO 09-19-2010 02:06 PM

Cris,

The car is looking very nice. Nice job with the quarter panels! :thumbsup:

Brian

Cris@JCG 09-19-2010 04:02 PM

it is only in DTM primer.. we still need t oget the doors gapped & do the body work on the shell..

Mary's car is coming along but not as fast as I would like it too.. But hoping to get paint on it this week.



Quote:

Originally Posted by awr68 (Post 306418)
Very cool! Nice to see it in primer...stretch turned out great! Lot's of cool projects under the knife over there! How's Mary's car coming along?

Out getting media blasted with the rest of the front sheet metal..

Quote:

Originally Posted by War (Post 306442)
So...where's the bumper?

Quote:

Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 306407)
Cris!

Can I tell ya sumthin? :rofl:

It's a sickness buddy.... none of us can ever stop... we just have to surrender to the car god that makes us carry on.

Nice work - as usual! Now you know what your customers feel like when they finally see something "done" and in primer... :rofl: :rofl: :woot:

I just want this car done Greg!! Wanna come wrench on it?? :D

Thanks Brian!

Quote:

Originally Posted by 73CPCAMARO (Post 306500)
Cris,

The car is looking very nice. Nice job with the quarter panels! :thumbsup:

Brian


Cris@JCG 09-20-2010 10:13 PM

Firewall Roll Bar Flanges
 
So, we want to make tie down bars from the firewall to the sub-frame.. Here is what we designed tonite.. I will be machining parts in couple of weeks & see how they work..

http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/...CAGE_Assem.jpg

http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/...n/IMG_0445.jpg

HWY Nova 09-21-2010 09:36 AM

Cris,

It looks like the downtube will attach to the right-end of these machined pieces. What attaches to the other end?


--Eric

Cris@JCG 09-21-2010 09:45 AM

Eric,

The view of the model shows that left side will elimnate the factory mounting for the fender & replaced with machined pcs.. The right side will be for the down tube that slips over the & has a chamfer so that when welded it has a nice clean bead.. I have to mount my sub-frame & see how we are going to tie it in but more than likely will be another machined flange welded to the sub-frame.. Still trying to decide if we are using a factory frame or aftermarket.. Wanna design one??? LOL

Getting tube benders quoted right now & we will have one in the next couple of weeks..


Quote:

Originally Posted by HWY Nova (Post 306683)
Cris,

It looks like the downtube will attach to the right-end of these machined pieces. What attaches to the other end?


--Eric


coolwelder62 09-21-2010 03:12 PM

Cris if they work out well, let me know I might want a pair of those for my 72 camaro project.Scott.

Cris@JCG 10-07-2010 08:13 PM

T-shirts
 
Ben Hermance got me a rendering for our new T-shirt... We will be getting them in a few days!!

http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/...r_shirt_sm.jpg

coolwelder62 10-07-2010 08:16 PM

Cris look's totally tubular.:lol:Scott.


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