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GregWeld 02-08-2014 09:13 AM

GREAT ROB!!!



HAHAHAHAHA Somebody had to do it!

rwhite692 02-08-2014 09:18 PM

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Made a cart this afternoon from some 2x2 scrap tube and some decent 275lb casters, to get this thing up off the floor. (It needed to be 'Murican height, and not Taiwan height). This will raise it by 13".

I extended the base by a bit at the motor end of the saw, since when the thing is in the vertical position, the stock base gets a bit "tippy".

when the paint is dry i just have to hoist up the saw and put it on top. It will bolt on at the four tabs, to secure the saw to the base.

Sieg 02-08-2014 10:32 PM

Looks good RW!

Reminds me that I need to spend a few bucks on tubing stock.

GregWeld 02-09-2014 06:20 AM

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Originally Posted by rwhite692 (Post 535107)
Made a cart this afternoon from some 2x2 scrap tube and some decent 500lb casters, to get this thing up off the floor. (It needed to be 'Murican height, and not Taiwan height). This will raise it by 13".

I extended the base by a bit at the motor end of the saw, since when the thing is in the vertical position, the stock base gets a bit "tippy".

when the paint is dry i just have to hoist up the saw and put it on top. It will bolt on at the four tabs, to secure the saw to the base.




Rob --- Don't you have a CAR to work on.... Or I know another buddy that tickles cats for a living that's car hasn't had an update for awhile. What's wrong with California lately -- seems there's all these cars waiting around for some love!?!?!?!



Nice job on the saw base BTW.

rwhite692 02-09-2014 09:25 AM

Hey GW I'm just waiting for high HP Twin Turbo 69 Camaros to become cool again.

I will have to post some updates. Work on the car has been moving along. my photo-hosting service went out of business and all the links to pics I've posted on line since the dawn of time went dark...That kinda reduced my enthusiasm for posting pics/updates. Started a new job a few months ago also so free time has been in short supply.

Saw and hydraulic tubing bender project came about because I am doing the bars in the car next. I did farm out a little project to Billy Utley.

rwhite692 02-09-2014 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Sieg (Post 535124)
Looks good RW!

Reminds me that I need to spend a few bucks on tubing stock.


Hey Scott, I have been buying material lately from OnlineMetals and their service has been excellent. The only time my local guy can beat their prices is if I buy in 16 - 20 foot sticks and I haven't had a project that big in a long while. And their shipping is reasonable.

There is a great scrapyard down in San Jose that I love going to because the place is just littered with more "high-end" scrap from many silicon valley equipment fabricators. Lots of stainless, Aluminum, even Ti.

Sieg 02-09-2014 11:08 AM

Rob I'm fortunate to have Coyote Steel 15 minutes away. If you go to the street view here you can get an idea: https://www.google.com/maps/preview/...9c050ac0?hl=en

rwhite692 02-12-2014 09:14 AM

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This is much better. Vise jaws are up at belly button level now. and with the head tilted vertically the center of mass is well supported. Sorry for the fuzzy pics.

HWY Nova 02-12-2014 10:12 AM

Looks great.

Where did you buy the casters?



--Eric

Sieg 02-12-2014 10:16 AM

Looks good Rob.

Fore and aft is covered.....how is it side to side?

Mine has a fixed kickstand on one side. I'm thinking an aftermarket motorcycle stand might be the ticket.......if you need side support.

rwhite692 02-12-2014 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Sieg (Post 535896)
Looks good Rob.

Fore and aft is covered.....how is it side to side?

Mine has a fixed kickstand on one side. I'm thinking an aftermarket motorcycle stand might be the ticket.......if you need side support.

Hi Scott - No issues side-to-side for my saw because the head doesn't have the ability to pivot (as does yours when adjusting for angled cuts) which would move the center of mass, for sure. I can see how that would be a concern.

rwhite692 02-12-2014 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by HWY Nova (Post 535895)
Looks great.

Where did you buy the casters?



--Eric

Hi Eric, they are from Magliner.

They do business on Ebay under username "handtrucksandcasters".

If you plug this into the ebay search window, the casters I bought will come up:

"Set 4 Swivel Plate Casters with 4" Maroon Polyurethane Wheels & 2 with Brakes"

coolwelder62 02-14-2014 06:14 AM

Very good thread. I've been shopping for a new vert band saw.My old sear's 14" wood unit, slowed down to cut steel is starting to show sign's of wear after 18year's of almost everyday service. I think the only reason it's held up this long is I don't have employee's and there is a sign on the front of it that says Do not use. That keep's all the loafer's from jamming it up.

Sieg 02-14-2014 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by coolwelder62 (Post 536315)
Very good thread. I've been shopping for a new vert band saw.My old sear's 14" wood unit, slowed down to cut steel is starting to show sign's of wear after 18year's of almost everyday service. I think the only reason it's held up this long is I don't have employee's and there is a sign on the front of it that says Do not use. That keep's all the loafer's from jamming it up.

Scott I'm guessing you need something in this category?
http://metal.baileighindustrial.com/...d-saw-bsv-20vs

On a side note, my first project with the new saw.

http://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-3...-3jzcfSV-L.jpg

http://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-3...-39bBzXv-L.jpg
Butchered the support welds with the MIG due to multiple factors and rushing the project. :(

http://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-R...-Rb29fsq-L.jpg

Pic of her as a child with her first puppy.

She likes the saw now. :D

GregWeld 02-14-2014 08:09 AM

Cute as hell Sieg! FTW!


Inside welds like that on the base -- take some special "knowledge" and skills that take time to acquire... like the feed rate -- so the wire can reach the area since you can't get the nozzle in there...

Maybe Scott will explain it to you.

Sieg 02-14-2014 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 536338)
Cute as hell Sieg! FTW!


Inside welds like that on the base -- take some special "knowledge" and skills that take time to acquire... like the feed rate -- so the wire can reach the area since you can't get the nozzle in there...

Maybe Scott will explain it to you.

To do it right since I'd never done a weld like that I needed to do a text piece.
First issue was inadequate ground, wire speed too slow, not enough hold-off, wire speed a little quick, rushing, etc.

I still don't have a good feel for wire speed on this machine.......acts very sensitive with a somewhat vague feeling input knob on the machine. 1-10 rheostat dial input that has little friction and 1/10th act they the make a difference........though probably not as much as my LOFT.

coolwelder62 02-14-2014 12:36 PM

6.5-7K is a little more than my budget.

rwhite692 02-14-2014 08:44 PM

Nice work Scott!

GregWeld 02-14-2014 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by coolwelder62 (Post 536376)
6.5-7K is a little more than my budget.



Less Chicken!! More Welding!!

Now get back to work!


LOL

Sieg 02-14-2014 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by rwhite692 (Post 536470)
Nice work Scott!

Thanks.

The gift turned out to be a real winner.......I think it actually made the priceless ranking. :thumbsup:

......and I'll never hear a negative word about that bandsaw purchase!

coolwelder62 02-14-2014 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 536471)
Less Chicken!! More Welding!!

Now get back to work!


LOL

Greg,I have one more son to put thur college,have to watch the money for a while longer.And I am eating less.Started a diet in Jan.

Sieg 02-15-2014 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by coolwelder62 (Post 536493)
Greg,I have one more son to put thur college,have to watch the money for a while longer.And I am eating less.Started a diet in Jan.

Your last propane bill would have covered that saw.....man up and layer up! LOL!

:underchair:

GregWeld 02-15-2014 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by coolwelder62 (Post 536493)
Greg,I have one more son to put thur college,have to watch the money for a while longer.And I am eating less.Started a diet in Jan.




College is overrated -- I didn't even finish high school...

coolwelder62 02-15-2014 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Sieg (Post 536538)
Your last propane bill would have covered that saw.....man up and layer up! LOL!

:underchair:

I all ready wear long under wear, sweat pants, short sleeve t shirt, long sleeve shirt, heavy denim shirt, wool socks, And Key brand overall's.I want my son Brandon to get an engineering degree. That way I can find out whats wrong with my designs. Plus his 90MPH fastball might help with getting into a good school.:EmoteClueless:


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