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mklinger 05-23-2018 06:41 PM

Another Alternative Installation Idea
 
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Thought I would add to this thread since some good ideas were shared. Here is what I came up with for installation in a 2nd gen Firebird. Some where between not having enough room and enough cable was this idea. Works great and looks great. Tucked out of sight.

waynieZ 05-23-2018 08:25 PM

It looks great, nice job!

Goosesdad 05-24-2018 07:17 AM

Well done!

joeko23 05-24-2018 11:13 AM

I bought this kit it has everything including that bracket that estopp sells separately all within the box. It's a nice self contained unit. I'm mounting mine right under the package tray (in the trunk floor) in my 69 Camaro. It's basically the same unit Speedway sells but way cheaper
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Push-Button...gAAOSwhEla-vd4

Dr. Jekyll 06-02-2018 10:07 PM

Wow what a really great set up, thanks for sharing!

RdHuggr68 04-07-2020 05:41 AM

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Originally Posted by dontlifttoshift (Post 658550)
Different and aesthetically unrefined.

https://photos.smugmug.com/Repair-Se...O/IMG_1696.jpg

The outer housing from the E stopp is threaded directly into the block on the right as is the inner cable from the right side park brake.

The inner cable from the E stopp is threaded directly to the block on the left side as is the inner cable from left side park brake. The blocks look like this, I think I had to retap the blocks to match the threads on the Estopp cable and housing.

http://content.speedwaymotors.com/Pr...b37eed5687.jpg

The outer housings that route to the park brake are mount to a piece of 1" box tubing with a tab on each end. All of the load is contained within that bracket and there is no load at all on the mounts of either the Estopp or the bracket holding the cables.

Why do it this way? When the Estopp is engaged, it tries to pull the inner cable into the outer housing.....pulling the left and right park brake cables closer together. Because it floats, it self equalizes, ensuring that the pulling force is equal between both sides.

Donny, I like your install on the E-Stopp below the package tray. My question is, did you come straight down to the the cable attatchment behind your backing plate? Or is there another lower bracket for the cable in front of the rear axle? Thanks

dontlifttoshift 04-07-2020 06:11 AM

After going through the trunk floor the cable is routed right to the cable mount on the axle housing.....I may have tied it off to the lower link of the rear suspension, I do not recall.

Worth noting, the eStopp comes with a much shorter cable now and will not allow for the exact setup shown in the picture. The concept would still work, but you will not be able to make the 180* bend with the eStopp cable.

dhutton 04-07-2020 04:16 PM

I saw a post from John Parsons where he only uses one cable to one wheel. A simple solution....

Don

RdHuggr68 04-07-2020 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by dhutton (Post 702275)
I saw a post from John Parsons where he only uses one cable to one wheel. A simple solution....

Don

Could you share the post or tell me the site you saw it on? :thankyou:

dontlifttoshift 04-08-2020 05:54 AM

It was on pro-touring. I don't think there was a pic. Just route the EStopp to one wheel with one cable. It eliminates the need to divide into two cables.

214Chevy 04-08-2020 04:58 PM

I've read reviews where this E-Stopp engages while the car is driving. It's been said in many forums. Uhhh, that's not good.

dhutton 04-08-2020 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by 214Chevelle (Post 702309)
I've read reviews where this E-Stopp engages while the car is driving. It's been said in many forums. Uhhh, that's not good.

That is likely because they didn’t connect the ignition lockout which keeps it from engaging when the car is running.

Could you post some links because I can’t find anything on this regarding E-Stopp specifically.

Don

jmac 04-08-2020 05:21 PM

This device will not engage while the engine is running? I'd like it to do that, so I can leave the car parked in neutral while running.

dhutton 04-08-2020 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by jmac (Post 702312)
This device will not engage while the engine is running? I'd like it to do that, so I can leave the car parked in neutral while running.

There is a wire that you connect to ignition power to prevent it from engaging when running. You are free to omit that connection...

Don

jmac 04-08-2020 05:32 PM

Gotcha. Wonder if it's just operator error causing it to engage while driving.

dontlifttoshift 04-09-2020 01:00 PM

I never hook up that wire. Not being able to use the park brake in autox grid is dumb.

The unit engages so slowly that even if you bumped the switch on accident it would be 5 seconds before it made a full pull.......at that point the little tiny brake shoes would probably disappear.

jmac 04-09-2020 05:41 PM

It would be cool if companies started to integrate an electric parking brake in to the caliper itself like some OEMs are now doing.

dontlifttoshift 04-13-2020 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by jmac (Post 702351)
It would be cool if companies started to integrate an electric parking brake in to the caliper itself like some OEMs are now doing.

I agree, that is a better solution. Wilwood has this which is part way there. https://wilwood.com/Calipers/Caliper...arking%20Brake

67fairlane 04-13-2020 11:40 AM

Wilwood does offer kits:


https://www.wilwood.com/BrakeKits/Br...o=140-15843-DR


https://www.wilwood.com/BrakeKits/Br...o=140-15844-DR

jmac 04-13-2020 12:06 PM

I agree Donny, it's a start. I'd prefer to have it all in one caliper. I'm sure it's just a matter of time. I emailed Baer a few weeks ago on this and they said "it's being discussed"

We'll just have to wait and see I guess. Maybe by the time I actually need brakes, they'll be available! :lol:

WILWAXU 04-13-2020 07:01 PM

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Wilwood setup is nice. I got to check it out at PRI

https://www.instagram.com/p/B6Ssqi2Jc2l/

67fairlane 04-18-2020 02:53 PM

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Thought I'd share my version...

Goosesdad 04-22-2020 08:11 AM

Well done sir!

python 05-28-2020 01:31 PM

Very interesting

cwylie 06-01-2020 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by 67fairlane (Post 702697)
Thought I'd share my version...

Is that the e-stopp setup?

214Chevy 06-01-2020 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 67fairlane (Post 702697)
Thought I'd share my version...

Niiiiiiiice!!

67fairlane 06-02-2020 04:08 PM

It is the e-stopp actuator with my version of a cable connecting bracket.

MtotheIKEo 07-27-2020 09:39 PM

After poking around at some OEM electric parking brake solutions it looks like some are using Tesla rear calipers for parking brakes.
Calipers can be found for $50-$100/pair on ebay...
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Tesla-Model...EAAOSwnlRewe4a
A company sells a controller for them with a few actuation options...
https://www.pantera-electronics.com/epbcontroller.htm
You're on your own for brackets in most cases.

The calipers operate similar to a reverse polarity power window, and I had a spare window controller laying around so I'm going to try using that and see if it works. 2-way momentary switch, 1 way for engage and the other to disengage.
https://www.amazon.com/Directed-Elec.../dp/B00H4N1Y2O

I like the e-stopp idea but if cables can be eliminated completely that would be ideal.

https://www.pantera-electronics.com/...iles/86229.jpg

Beechy 07-28-2020 04:15 AM

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Prolly can be done with regular Bosch 5-pin relays

MtotheIKEo 07-30-2020 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Beechy (Post 705330)
Prolly can be done with regular Bosch 5-pin relays

You lose out on the load sensing aspect, but 2 relays would certainly work from a pure function standpoint.

MtotheIKEo 08-20-2020 07:40 PM

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Caliper is mounted. It works perfectly with the one-touch window controller.

69Toronto 05-16-2021 05:05 AM

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Originally Posted by MtotheIKEo (Post 705866)
Caliper is mounted. It works perfectly with the one-touch window controller.


Im just about to finish my tesla install, I used a module to control the caliper similar to pantera's

I have installed only 1 tesla caliper....do you think this enough to hold the car from rolling?

69Toronto 05-16-2021 05:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MtotheIKEo (Post 705866)
Caliper is mounted. It works perfectly with the one-touch window controller.


Im just about to finish my tesla install, I used a module to control the caliper similar to pantera's

I have installed only 1 tesla caliper....do you think this enough to hold the car from rolling?

MtotheIKEo 05-18-2021 09:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 69Toronto (Post 712609)
Im just about to finish my tesla install, I used a module to control the caliper similar to pantera's

I have installed only 1 tesla caliper....do you think this enough to hold the car from rolling?

1 is enough to hold my car firmly on a steep driveway. It very noticeable if I leave it engaged and try to drive away.

Did you use the Pantera controller or something else?

69Toronto 05-20-2021 02:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MtotheIKEo (Post 712669)
1 is enough to hold my car firmly on a steep driveway. It very noticeable if I leave it engaged and try to drive away.

Did you use the Pantera controller or something else?

thanks good to know...cant wait to see mine work
(car still paint)
I did not use the pantera controller, I found an actuator controller or 99.00 and some generic red/green button
once i get my car back I can take a look and post the name of the manufacturer

Perry Mitchell 09-03-2021 09:53 AM

I was hoping to get more info on the Tesla parking brake conversion for my 67 Camaro. What is the caliper made of? I'm hoping aluminum so I can remove the Tesla logo and get them anodized to match my Wilwood calipers. I also need more info about the recall that applies to the calipers. Can I fix them myself? I am trying to find a caliper cheap enough to play with but they are all around $100 and up per each. I also need to figure out how to mount them.


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