couldn't agree more. this car is not what I imagine when I think of any thing that might resemble pro-touring. I find it some what irritating.

says the guy building a pt POSTER CAR...lololol
if you've gone aftermarket subframe, from that moment on, youre almost certainly in, period........

Believe it or not we are the diehard minority of this arguement. Its not about "getting it" anymore. It about "getting into it". Everyone has to start somewhere, and not everyone knows about Lateral-g or Pro-touring or there would be 10 times more people here. Pro-Touring has forever changed the face of hot rodding and that is good enough for me.

I seem to recall a thread that actually had a definition of what Pro Touring is. But...I couldn't find it. :rolleyes:

While I don't have or know the official definition, I would say there are a few basic elements that are required for a car to be considered a base line Pro Touring car. Items like disc brakes on all four corners, upgraded suspension for a better quality ride and upgraded steering.

It's just my humble opinion, but these are some good examples of PT cars (mild and wild). The last being the "poster child" if you will.

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s...SIIMG_2312.jpg

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s...cture036-1.jpg

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s...6c283cac_o.jpg

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s..._5382749_n.jpg

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s...ffav8/orig.jpg

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s...amsbc-449L.jpg

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s.../Scotts69a.jpg

Very good point Mike. I learned of Lateral G in 2008 but I wanted to make vast improvementss to most areas of the car since I got it in '89 at 17. I did a lot of research in the early nineties when DSE was born out of a garage, PST had poly bushing kits on the back of every magazine and Dick Guldstrand answered his own phone when I called there about his templates.

Fast forward to 2012 and I am making slow progress but life takes priority. Some of my parts are out of another guys budget and others would be deemed inadequate.

I won't call my car PRO touring because I am not paying anyone and I'm pretty sure nobody is funding my efforts... although I have had a few nice Christmas surprises.

My car will be what I want it to be, Someday... when time, money and know-how align long enough for me.

http://www.pro-touring.com/showthrea...ouring-defined


http://www.camaros.net/forums/archiv.../t-101503.html

http://supercarx.net/articles/Pro-to...perCar%20X.htm

Ahh, the "what is pro-touring" debate again.

This reminds me, in addition to Mary Pozzi's "stick you b***" bumper sticker decals, I think we should all have some that say "WWMSD?" Or, "what would Mark Stielow do?" :lol:

Matt

Oh brother not again.....

WWMSD That's awesome. :lol:

LOL yup