Why are people throwing a minitub and tires and calling it a pro touring?

[lutzy]

Is it me or people are throwing cars together and calling it a pro touring show car..I been looking for a quality 69 camaro since I sold mine a few months due to $$ issues. Luckly I bounced back and I have a few $ to spend. I cant believe whats out there though.

Heres a car listed on ebay and seller said it was in show condition..I looked over the pictures and video and it seems that this car looks thrown together. Paint looks great but take a look at the pic's and video's..tell me if you see what I see..
Just trying to find a quality car after selling my 69 pro-tour camaro a few months ago for unseen circumstance.
Luckly I was able to bounce back and have funds again minus my car
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/?cmd=...K%3AMEWAX%3AIT


Heres some video's

http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/3678/...gvgwfcopro.mp4

http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/6...jhkbpdiasq.mp4

http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/9...njraeuarvq.mp4

http://img607.imageshack.us/img607/1...ogaurgawba.mp4

[hifi875]

While it might not be red devil or some of the other super nice cars on our forum,it is alot closer to pro-touring than some other stuff on here. Looks like a drag car conversion to me. It wouldn't take a ton of tweaks to make it "more" protouring though. just my .02

[MarkM66]

That's nothing, most put a set of 17's on an old car and call it "pro-touring."

[Spiffav8]

I've noticed the same thing. I think it just shows that most people still don't understand what Pro Touring is.

[barrrf]

Please list the definition of Pro-Touring so I know where to start building my car. That way when I show pictures someone wont laugh at me at say "Thats not Pro-Touring lol you havent spent $12454244 on upgrades and an LS engine".

Kthx.

But seriously, where is the line that seperates Pro-Touring from not. Looks like this car could use some seats and interior upgrades and it would "Pro Touring" but I dont know. Im new to the game.

[strtcar]

I love the copper pipe fitting out of the fuel filter.

[NOPANTS68]

Conversely, there are lots of cars coming out that are more "pro" than "touring", but still using that nameplate. Tube chassis cars wrapped in carbon fiber running 4 digit power is anything but pro touring IMO.

[lutzy]

Originally Posted by strtcar

I love the copper pipe fitting out of the fuel filter.

Looks like a hose clamp too.. And if you look at the video Under the motor looks like it was hacked and box tubing welded instead of using the correct oil pan for clearance issues..

[Stuart Adams]

To me if the owner mentions pro touring it's good. There will always be levels of cars within any group. Good cars are hard to find in any classification.

Also what is one guys show car is another mans junk. It's all good.

Glad your wallet is in good shape.

[Blake Foster]

Originally Posted by NOPANTS68

Conversely, there are lots of cars coming out that are more "pro" than "touring", but still using that nameplate. Tube chassis cars wrapped in carbon fiber running 4 digit power is anything but pro touring IMO.

it is NO different that what happened to "PRO STREET" I was at the drags on saturday and a car in "PRO STREET" ran a 6.39 @ 225.
Really??
I know it is just a Class but that is as fast as some "PRO MODS"ran 4 years ago.
You will see it happen here too, the American Street Car Series will need to split up the cars as more "Race" cars show up, no disrespect to race cars I happen to Prefer them. But it makes it hard to keep the field level, most guys do not have the money, time or knoweledge to run a Racecar but the few who do will push it to and beyond the current limit and everyone will whine and the promoters will have to make different classes otherwise the lowbuck guy, who actually pays the events bills will stop showing up.

so where DO you draw the line ... at both ends? good question? I don't have a good answer.