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tellyv 09-12-2008 12:09 PM

well I really like the way it turned out, next after joliet I'll make an airbox and get rid of the ugly ass air filter, I'm just going to do some more buffing and fix some of the little stuff for now and then fab up the new front and rear valances later on see some of ya in joliet. telly

http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii154/tellyv/hs2.jpg

Van B 09-12-2008 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by tellyv (Post 165337)
It's pretty damn hard getting my own car done with all the customer crap in the way so this thing would never see daylight unless I built it this way, and theres more to come in the future!!!!

Hey now. Some of that customer crap might be mine soon! :rofl:

oorange67 09-13-2008 12:32 AM

Looks Killer!!!!!

mark smith 09-13-2008 05:28 AM

Beautiful car.I like the original looking stripe with the modern logo.

Mover 09-13-2008 11:08 AM

Great looking project!

fasbird 09-14-2008 08:00 AM

truly an inspiration
 
What a bunch of cool mods and ideas. Great job. I can only hope my '71 Road Runner comes close.

Ronny 10-02-2008 07:32 AM

Really nice Cuda :thumbsup: Lots of inspiration!
Makes me wanna start on my `72 Cuda.

GMracer 10-02-2008 08:29 AM

The underhood shot is absolute money, makes me re-consider putting a different color under the hood on my all black and billet truck. :thumbsup:

fasbird 10-03-2008 05:31 AM

great ideas
 
I really like the "clean-up cover" metalwork. Gives me a couple ideas for the '71 RR project which will eliminate the need to weld up every hole in the inner fender areas. I especially like the shroud in front of the radiator. It really cleans up the open between the rad support and front header.

tellyv 10-03-2008 06:33 AM

thanks guys, I actually started driving it, getting the bugs out so I dont have any problems next spring(hopefully). I cant believe how fast this thing is, poor nittos!!!! see ya telly

krptonite 10-03-2008 06:46 PM

wow!
 
that is one badass ride you got going there, have you heard anything bad about these aftermarket frontends causing the car to buckle?? we put a similar one in the 70 cuda we built with the viper motor and the owner is worried now as he has heard of several E bodies folding up at the front ! as the original chassis puts all the load thru the torque boxes via the torsion rods so the inner fenders dont take any load but when going to a coilover set up this puts all load thru the front rails and inner fenders,do you have any thoughts or input to add as we have another cuda to do with the same front end and the owner doesnt want to modify the topside at all, lastly, whose wiring harness is it? as i would like to fit an srt in an earlier barracuda at some time in the not to distant future.

tony byram 10-03-2008 07:37 PM

One sweet cuda
 
Excellent job Telly! Thats great that you can drive it, enjoy it, and still work on it. I like the wheels just the way they are, think that if the centers were black it would take away from the loks of the car. That stance is killer! You were on the money. I bet those poor Nittos get a heck of a workout with that Hemi, I own a 72 Camaro Z28 and a Cuda or Challenger are the only two cars I would even consider trading for. Great job, very clean not over the top crazy, just tastefully done. NICE!:cheers:

rjsjea 10-03-2008 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by krptonite (Post 169526)
that is one badass ride you got going there, have you heard anything bad about these aftermarket frontends causing the car to buckle?? we put a similar one in the 70 cuda we built with the viper motor and the owner is worried now as he has heard of several E bodies folding up at the front ! as the original chassis puts all the load thru the torque boxes via the torsion rods so the inner fenders dont take any load but when going to a coilover set up this puts all load thru the front rails and inner fenders,do you have any thoughts or input to add as we have another cuda to do with the same front end and the owner doesnt want to modify the topside at all, lastly, whose wiring harness is it? as i would like to fit an srt in an earlier barracuda at some time in the not to distant future.


The AlterKtion from RMS puts the load on the K-member itself and front frame rails, not the inner fenders at all, actually the hole where the shocks originally mount becomes obsolete. There are AlterKtion's w/ 60K plus miles on them now without any issues.

XV is another option, a much greater investment $$ and fabrication, uses C5 suspension. Way badass, but double the money $$

Nvrenuf 10-04-2008 04:49 AM

Oh man! Just came across this car this morning! Awesome Cuda. Great job:thumbsup: I love it. Engine compt cleanup made a world of difference:cool:

krptonite 10-04-2008 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by rjsjea (Post 169536)
The AlterKtion from RMS puts the load on the K-member itself and front frame rails, not the inner fenders at all, actually the hole where the shocks originally mount becomes obsolete. There are AlterKtion's w/ 60K plus miles on them now without any issues.

XV is another option, a much greater investment $$ and fabrication, uses C5 suspension. Way badass, but double the money $$

i know what you are saying but the inner fenders are all that support the front frame rails and the frame rails were never designed to take the load at that point, if the car is 100% rustfree it may be ok though, thanks for the input.

tellyv 10-04-2008 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by krptonite (Post 169611)
i know what you are saying but the inner fenders are all that support the front frame rails and the frame rails were never designed to take the load at that point, if the car is 100% rustfree it may be ok though, thanks for the input.

When I was smoothing the engine compartment I stitch welded everything I could were ever I could. I have no faith in the factory spotwelds. thanks for the compliments guys!!!!

jvike 10-05-2008 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by krptonite (Post 169526)
that is one badass ride you got going there, have you heard anything bad about these aftermarket frontends causing the car to buckle?? we put a similar one in the 70 cuda we built with the viper motor and the owner is worried now as he has heard of several E bodies folding up at the front ! as the original chassis puts all the load thru the torque boxes via the torsion rods so the inner fenders dont take any load but when going to a coilover set up this puts all load thru the front rails and inner fenders,do you have any thoughts or input to add as we have another cuda to do with the same front end and the owner doesnt want to modify the topside at all, lastly, whose wiring harness is it? as i would like to fit an srt in an earlier barracuda at some time in the not to distant future.

Isn't that the Magnumforce front? They used it on the Sick Fish, It does mount the coilovers in the orginal damper locations, looks scary to me. Boyd Coddington also used it on the MAX HEMI '64 Polara. Don't know it that's the one you mean?

krptonite 10-05-2008 01:04 PM

the unit we used was an alterkation front end

tellyv 10-05-2008 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Rhaps (Post 169786)
Isn't that the Magnumforce front? They used it on the Sick Fish, It does mount the coilovers in the orginal damper locations, looks scary to me. Boyd Coddington also used it on the MAX HEMI '64 Polara. Don't know it that's the one you mean?

the sick fish I do believe did not have an xv I'm not sure what it did have I'll check the build book at the shop tomorrow, the alterktion does not use the stock shock mounts it has there own brackets off of the k-member so your coil over or shockwave does not use the stock mounting location!!!!

fasbird 10-06-2008 08:11 AM

Rms
 
I hope this doesn't cause too much debate, but I keep hearing from a "very few" on different boards about how the RMS puts stress on the frame rails. I have the RMS sitting in garage and have stared at this setup. Unless the self-contained coil brackets fold inward, how does this setup put undue stress on the frame? And, so I don't mis-communicate, the key phrase in my statement is "undue stress". Looks to be one of the best thought-out systems I have seen. At this point, I'm glad I purchased it!!!!

krptonite 10-06-2008 01:36 PM

i dont think the concern is that the coilover brackets will bend its that the whole frame is pushing up against the frame rails and inner fenders or that the weight of the car is forcing down (same thing) whereas the original torsion bars move all the forces back to the torque boxes where there is a lot more structural strength, i have no personal thing against rms , infact when i start my mopar it will more than likely have one as i cant afford an xv system but i will also fit chassis connectors so as to make a continuous rail front to back to help it out. maybe this is why the general lees always folded up so easily!!lol, i dont think anyone is out to diss any companies product but i also think it is a legitimate concern especially as there are more than a few crusty frame rails out there and there are some really sharp minds on this site so between everyone we should be able to get it sorted so we can all put any possible issues to rest.

jvike 10-06-2008 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by tellyv (Post 169833)
the sick fish I do believe did not have an xv I'm not sure what it did have I'll check the build book at the shop tomorrow, the alterktion does not use the stock shock mounts it has there own brackets off of the k-member so your coil over or shockwave does not use the stock mounting location!!!!

As I said, Sick Fish has a Magnumforce front end. It was built before XV on the market.

I've never heard anything bad about the RMS, but as said it does put the stress on the rails. The best system in my eyes is the XV, they have extra tubes inserted in the rails to stiffen it up and they have developed a front end stiffening kit that IMO should be a part of the XV Lvl II front suspension package.

Anyone that want to educate themselfs on Mopar coilover systems should read this entire thread:
http://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/...rt=&PHPSESSID=

tellyv 10-06-2008 10:00 PM

there are alot of different subframes or k-frames out on the market. like most people I build my cars to drive not race, the cost of xv just wasnt in the budget I build my cars to have fun and sell so the cost does come into the whole aspect of things and if I have to choose between total race performance or drivability I choose drivablility how many times are you going to race your car? maybe at a goodguys autocross? around here theres not many places to autocross so my cars are built for looks and definatly some performance but not for full on race cars. I highly doubt that what the normal driver does with these cars would cause them to calapse unless there a total rust bucket that wasnt fixed right. You could also build a front hoop out of roll cage tube, come off of the firewall and run it just behind the rad. support, that would be pretty easy and I think theres plenty of room for it. telly

cees67 10-07-2008 01:05 PM

i even love the name ........blackened (like the metallica song)

tellyv 04-20-2009 05:54 PM

trunk progress
 
Getting some more progress, this was my first attempt at custom interior work I think it turned out pretty good. Next I'll make a new center counsel.
mock up
http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii154/tellyv/s1.jpg
finished
http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii154/tellyv/a1.jpg
http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii154/tellyv/a2.jpg
http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii154/tellyv/a3.jpg

Van B 04-20-2009 08:38 PM

Looks good Telly.

MarkM66 06-25-2009 05:15 AM

Any updates?

What a/c system are you using? I noticed you had the condenser mounted vertically, and not horizontally as vintage air states.

I'm really not sure, maybe they can go either way.

tellyv 06-25-2009 06:19 AM

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Originally Posted by MarkM66 (Post 220064)
Any updates?

What a/c system are you using? I noticed you had the condenser mounted vertically, and not horizontally as vintage air states.

I'm really not sure, maybe they can go either way.

Southern Auto Air, I changed the mounting of the a/c condensor so it's horizontal now(I called them and they said not to put it vert.), as for update I've been pounding the hell out of her just got back from motorstate and it did well, besides it needs a little bigger brake system, we were about in the middle of the pack on the auto cross so not to bad still trying to figure out where to set the ride height, it likes to roll over really bad unless theres a ton of air in it so I'll have to work on that a little, I still have a couple things to finish a little wireing and the a/c needs to be charged. telly
http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/i...llyv/autox.jpg

JohnC 06-25-2009 07:43 AM

Any reason for picking Southern Auto Air? I planned on going with Classic auto Air over "others." I was told it fits the best....any opinions?

Very nice ride...hope my '71 is up to par..

tellyv 06-25-2009 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnC (Post 220101)
Any reason for picking Southern Auto Air? I planned on going with Classic auto Air over "others." I was told it fits the best....any opinions?

Very nice ride...hope my '71 is up to par..

I'm sorry mine is classic auto air also.

Capjr 07-02-2009 05:14 PM

Telly,
WOW THATS AN AWESOME CUDA YOU GOT THERE . TO ME IT LOOKS BETTER THAN SICK FISH. NICE WORK:thumbsup: :hail:

nvr2fst 07-02-2009 07:35 PM

Telly,
Car turned out great. Got to see it in Racine. Ill have to stop by your place someday and shoot the crap when Im heading up to your neck of WI.
Dave

tellyv 07-03-2009 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by nvr2fst (Post 221274)
Telly,
Car turned out great. Got to see it in Racine. Ill have to stop by your place someday and shoot the crap when Im heading up to your neck of WI.
Dave

sounds great I'm usually always around.

tellyv 07-03-2009 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Capjr (Post 221249)
Telly,
WOW THATS AN AWESOME CUDA YOU GOT THERE . TO ME IT LOOKS BETTER THAN SICK FISH. NICE WORK:thumbsup: :hail:

Thanks for the compliment it looks good but sick fish is a way nicer ride, I'd need another 100k to even come close!!!!

Scorpner 05-25-2010 11:16 AM

Wow :wow:
Just came across this from the for sale ad. One of the best looking Cuda's I've ever seen. :hail:

tellyv 05-25-2010 01:06 PM

thanks man:thumbsup:


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