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cwylie 09-22-2014 07:43 AM

Ordered mine this weekend. Really looking forward to it showing up.

badazz81z28 09-22-2014 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Sheck44 (Post 570808)
Maybe someone could advise here ...

My engine builder (Manny @ Dasilva Motorsport here in Ontario) says we are going with the following ...

Stock ls7 clutch with quicktime bell housing and the gen5 Camaro slave.

Anyone with advice on the actuator would be appreciated

Thanks
Steve


I have basically the same set up, I use the Wilwood .750 with the caddy ctsv to bearing

214Chevy 09-22-2014 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Vince@MSperfab (Post 570594)
sorry, i missed you......

These should. We have tested on a 67,69 & 71 Chevelle, 70 GTO, but with a little work. Its at the pedal and the steering column output firewall flange...
You can use the existing zbar rod mount but the pedal pressure is a tad high so we used a 3/4" bore master to correct that. In-fact we now recommend using the 3/4" bore and they seem to work fine with most actuators we have used.

You will also have to trim and modify your firewall so the plate is seated flat. One of my customers made a 10g spacer plate.

Thanks Vince.:thumbsup:

Vince@Meanstreets 09-22-2014 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sheck44 (Post 570808)
Maybe someone could advise here ...

My engine builder (Manny @ Dasilva Motorsport here in Ontario) says we are going with the following ...

Stock ls7 clutch with quicktime bell housing and the gen5 Camaro slave.

Anyone with advice on the actuator would be appreciated

Thanks
Steve

From what I have been reading looks like you will have to use the LS7 actuator. PART NUMBER 24237634

I have the actuators added and also the adapter fittings.

Steve, I will email you with an update.


Vince

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Originally Posted by badazz81z28 (Post 570844)
I have basically the same set up, I use the Wilwood .750 with the caddy ctsv to bearing

Did you need a feed line adapter? http://www.shop.meanstreetsperforman...LS7adapt14.htm

nyciti 09-22-2014 06:48 PM

Got mine this morning, super fast shipping. VERY nice piece, everything looks and fits really nice. Thanks again. And yes it does clear everything fine with the Hydroboost also.

Sheck44 09-23-2014 03:49 AM

Thanks Vince
 
BIG thanks to Vince for researching and finding a solution to the LS7 application and also sourcing the parts for me !! Gotta love vendors like this ...

And thanks NYCITI, good to hear about the hydroboost clearing. Just an FYI to all, Jim from Hydratech was awesome to deal with yesterday as well, he spent a good 1/2 hour going over the specifics of my application ... great guy

Thanks again Vince
Steve

badazz81z28 09-23-2014 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Vince@MSperfab (Post 570874)
From what I have been reading looks like you will have to use the LS7 actuator. PART NUMBER 24237634

I have the actuators added and also the adapter fittings.

Steve, I will email you with an update.


Vince



Did you need a feed line adapter? http://www.shop.meanstreetsperforman...LS7adapt14.htm


Yes I will.

carcass 11-30-2014 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Vince@MSperfab (Post 540235)
I had that issue too that's another reason why I made these for my car. It will fit a stock, DSE and aftermarket boosters. It also clears the Camaro and A body fuse panel. If a guy is going to install an American Auto wire upgrade kit it would be a great opportunity to move the bulkhead over a half inch.

If I can get my hands on a Chevy II pedal bracket and pedals I could get it done 2 or 3 weeks.

Let me see what I can come up with.

"
Thanks for all the effort and obviously a great product. Would you please expand on the combo using an American Autowire fuse panel? You said this would be a great opportunity to move the bulkhead over half an inch, I have a 66 Chevelle, and according to American Autowire they send a paper template that they want you to expand the firewall opening to fit the new fuse panel bulkhead.
http://www.americanautowire.com/PDFL...late%205.0.pdf
will the American autowire panel clear the pedal and master cylinder bracket you make?

Vince@Meanstreets 11-30-2014 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by carcass (Post 583581)
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Thanks for all the effort and obviously a great product. Would you please expand on the combo using an American Autowire fuse panel? You said this would be a great opportunity to move the bulkhead over half an inch, I have a 66 Chevelle, and according to American Autowire they send a paper template that they want you to expand the firewall opening to fit the new fuse panel bulkhead.
http://www.americanautowire.com/PDFL...late%205.0.pdf
will the American autowire panel clear the pedal and master cylinder bracket you make?

Hi,

Yes, they fit together just fine. The bracket fits just below it. The another kit that we removed runs right into the flasher unit. You can see the old hole to the right.

the shaft goes where the red circle is and thats the AAW template.

grendel 12-02-2014 08:01 AM

Hey Vince,
Is it odd that Scott had to do a tab on the clutch arm? It's a stock 73 clutch pedal assembly. Also, what issues will I run into with an American Autowire kit for a 73 Camaro?

https://lateral-g.net/forums/atta...1&d=1416620828

I love how this looks, was nice to get a complete kit for my TR6060 and know it will all work together.

Vince@Meanstreets 12-02-2014 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by grendel (Post 583823)
Hey Vince,
Is it odd that Scott had to do a tab on the clutch arm? It's a stock 73 clutch pedal assembly. Also, what issues will I run into with an American Autowire kit for a 73 Camaro?

https://lateral-g.net/forums/atta...1&d=1416620828

I love how this looks, was nice to get a complete kit for my TR6060 and know it will all work together.

Hi JJ,

I have several different length adjuster rods...looks like the short was put in the kit. Im not sure how that will effect the ratio...might increase it. I'll do some math in the AM.

Let me know if there are any issues with it. I can send you the 4 inch bar. That should put the heim above the existing arm hole.

It clears just fine with the AAW box on our test car.

grendel 12-03-2014 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Vince@MSperfab (Post 583970)
Hi JJ,

I have several different length adjuster rods...looks like the short was put in the kit. Im not sure how that will effect the ratio...might increase it. I'll do some math in the AM.

Let me know if there are any issues with it. I can send you the 4 inch bar. That should put the heim above the existing arm hole.

It clears just fine with the AAW box on our test car.

Thanks Vince, let me know on the math, please. The car's in KS, I am in NH.

Vince@Meanstreets 12-04-2014 12:31 AM

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Originally Posted by grendel (Post 584073)
Thanks Vince, let me know on the math, please. The car's in KS, I am in NH.

Hi JJ,

Yeah, its @ 2.66:1 thats gonna be tough....Shoot me his address and i'll ship out the 4" bar ASAP. That should be better on your leg.

Ive run into a few funny holes where we had to weld up the hole and redrilled it.

markos920 12-04-2014 08:29 AM

I'm running ls3, tko600, ls7 clutch kit.. Gm621 aluminum bell housing.. Would this setup works with your kit.. Any issues? Just want to make sure before ordering it.. Thanks

grendel 12-04-2014 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Vince@MSperfab (Post 584153)
Hi JJ,

Yeah, its @ 2.66:1 thats gonna be tough....Shoot me his address and i'll ship out the 4" bar ASAP. That should be better on your leg.

Ive run into a few funny holes where we had to weld up the hole and redrilled it.

Vintage Racing and Performance

1758 N. 700th Rd

Baldwin City, KS 66006

Vince@Meanstreets 12-04-2014 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by markos920 (Post 584172)
I'm running ls3, tko600, ls7 clutch kit.. Gm621 aluminum bell housing.. Would this setup works with your kit.. Any issues? Just want to make sure before ordering it.. Thanks

No, you should be good. We are running the same set up on another car. But, what flywheel are you running?

If you go with the full kit the slave that fits the TKO600 has shims to get the right placement match the clutch face. Flywheel choice MAY be a problem.

markos920 12-04-2014 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Vince@MSperfab (Post 584198)
No, you should be good. We are running the same set up on another car. But, what flywheel are you running?

If you go with the full kit the slave that fits the TKO600 has shims to get the right placement match the clutch face. Flywheel choice MAY be a problem.

I was planning to use ls7 flywheel part #12571611 168tooth.. Any suggestion on what flywheels I should use?

Vince@Meanstreets 12-04-2014 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by markos920 (Post 584204)
I was planning to use ls7 flywheel part #12571611 168tooth.. Any suggestion on what flywheels I should use?

It may work with the adjustable clutch slave/actuator. Is the clutch and flywheel on the engine already? I can use the face to bellhousing flange measurement to find out.

markos920 12-04-2014 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Vince@MSperfab (Post 584210)
It may work with the adjustable clutch slave/actuator. Is the clutch and flywheel on the engine already? I can use the face to bellhousing flange measurement to find out.

Not yet, I'm still waiting on the tko600. I'm still figuring out what kit I should go with less issues... What clutch kit and flywheel you guys use on your ls3/tko600 set up?

Vince@Meanstreets 12-04-2014 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by markos920 (Post 584213)
Not yet, I'm still waiting on the tko600. I'm still figuring out what kit I should go with less issues... What clutch kit and flywheel you guys use on your ls3/tko600 set up?

We use the truck flywheel (Sachs pn NFW1050) then we can use a standard SBC or BBC 26 spline clutch set up.

You can search the NFW-1050 part number for applications then search for a performance version. Fidanza or Hays both have AL versions.

markos920 12-04-2014 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Vince@MSperfab (Post 584246)
We use the truck flywheel (Sachs pn NFW1050) then we can use a standard SBC or BBC 26 spline clutch set up.

You can search the NFW-1050 part number for applications then search for a performance version. Fidanza or Hays both have AL versions.

Will do, I will order your kit once I get everything put together. Thanks! Markos

Vince@Meanstreets 12-09-2014 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by grendel (Post 584195)
Vintage Racing and Performance

1758 N. 700th Rd

Baldwin City, KS 66006

Just saw this.

I'll get one out in the AM.

Thanks.

Vince

ad53030 12-17-2014 01:02 PM

Also interested in parts or a kit for my 69 Camaro. Sent you a message thru your e-store. If I went with Item #: MSP-BCBPKIT69, what reservoir does it come with? Then I would just need the GM LS FBody style slave and AN line and a speedbleeder?

LS3, built 98-02 FBody T56, Quicktime RM-8020 bellhousing, most likely a monster stage 2 clutch, and the 28lb steel flywheel (RAM, I think).

Matter if I run manual brakes w/o a booster? Want to add Hydraboost later on..

Thanks a ton.

Vince@Meanstreets 12-17-2014 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by ad53030 (Post 585790)
Also interested in parts or a kit for my 69 Camaro. Sent you a message thru your e-store. If I went with Item #: MSP-BCBPKIT69, what reservoir does it come with? Then I would just need the GM LS FBody style slave and AN line and a speedbleeder?

LS3, built 98-02 FBody T56, Quicktime RM-8020 bellhousing, most likely a monster stage 2 clutch, and the 28lb steel flywheel (RAM, I think).

Matter if I run manual brakes w/o a booster? Want to add Hydraboost later on..

Thanks a ton.

Hi A,

I was just replying to your email.

It will work just fine with a Hydratech boost unit. We made a few revisions to work with their bracket.

Correct, QT bell 8020 can use the F body slave/actuator.

The master cylinder kit comes with a few choices of reservoirs.
No problem, this is why I put the kits out, so guys can piece them together if they wish.

Let me know if you need anything else.

badazz81z28 01-14-2015 07:09 PM

Anyone install theirs yet? Does it sit flush on your firewall?

Vince@Meanstreets 01-15-2015 01:14 AM

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Originally Posted by badazz81z28 (Post 589750)
Anyone install theirs yet? Does it sit flush on your firewall?

pm sent

cwylie 01-15-2015 09:00 AM

There is a slight kick out at the bottom where the master cyl mounts that is not flush to the firewall but besides that it is flush. Once the brake master is bolted up its really hard to tell its not flush. I am very happy with mine and would not hesitate to to use it again.

badazz81z28 01-15-2015 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by cwylie (Post 589819)
There is a slight kick out at the bottom where the master cyl mounts that is not flush to the firewall but besides that it is flush. Once the brake master is bolted up its really hard to tell its not flush. I am very happy with mine and would not hesitate to to use it again.

What year and model? Thats how mine fits. The mount where the brake MC is sits flat, but because the bracket has a bend, it bows out towards the bottom. I would need to seal a large gap as is.


Pictures by chance?

cwylie 01-15-2015 03:35 PM

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The gap and pretty small and I was not too worried about sealing it but I did get this seam from a buddy and I was going to try to use it.

grendel 01-15-2015 05:29 PM

Mine kicks out a little bit, not much.

https://lateral-g.net/forums/atta...1&d=1417490039

I would like one of those boots though.

badazz81z28 01-15-2015 06:12 PM

Gents, what year and model are these cars?

grendel 01-15-2015 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by badazz81z28 (Post 589927)
Gents, what year and model are these cars?

73 Camaro as indicated in the thread and my sig.

cwylie 01-15-2015 06:54 PM

Mine is a 69 Camaro. I dont think there is a way to make it perfectly flat without cutting into the firewall. You can see the hump in the picture I posted.

badazz81z28 01-15-2015 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by cwylie (Post 589949)
Mine is a 69 Camaro. I dont think there is a way to make it perfectly flat without cutting into the firewall. You can see the hump in the picture I posted.


Got it.

Vince@Meanstreets 01-15-2015 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by grendel (Post 589912)
Mine kicks out a little bit, not much.

https://lateral-g.net/forums/atta...1&d=1417490039

I would like one of those boots though.

I second that.....That boot looks perfect.

Source please.

on the cars that we have installed these on I cut out a slot in the factory block off plate for the shaft to fit through. Very small hole. And a bead of RTV around the bracket.

cwylie 01-16-2015 08:16 AM

I have not confirmed it will work yet but I think it will. Its the clutch boot off a Cj7 Jeep.

http://www.quadratec.com/products/91...t0kaAhwD8P8HAQ

Vince@Meanstreets 01-16-2015 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by cwylie (Post 590029)
I have not confirmed it will work yet but I think it will. Its the clutch boot off a CY7 Jeep.

http://www.quadratec.com/products/91...t0kaAhwD8P8HAQ

Thank you,

Those will work great....drill a hole and face the donger towards the pedal.

cwylie 01-16-2015 12:49 PM

Yeah it will fit inside for sure. A buddy was working on a old CJ7 that didnt look like it had a top on it in the last 30 years so the last thing he was worried about was the firewall being sealed. I saw it sitting there and he gave it to me so I figured I would give it a shot.

Overall I am very pleased with the bracket. Looks great and doesnt have any flex.

grif54 02-27-2015 12:02 PM

I was wondering if you had to make any modifications to the pedal on a 71 Chevelle. I want to pick up a set of pedals that is from a member here in the for sale section and the pushrod mount is moved up a little bit and I want to use your setup with the pedals. I am concerned that the pedal will not work with the pushrod bracket modified and moved up. In his pictures it looks to be around a 1/2inch. I understand that you can't give me a straight answer, just looking for some direction. Thanks.

Vince@Meanstreets 03-01-2015 02:52 AM

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Originally Posted by grif54 (Post 596585)
I was wondering if you had to make any modifications to the pedal on a 71 Chevelle. I want to pick up a set of pedals that is from a member here in the for sale section and the pushrod mount is moved up a little bit and I want to use your setup with the pedals. I am concerned that the pedal will not work with the pushrod bracket modified and moved up. In his pictures it looks to be around a 1/2inch. I understand that you can't give me a straight answer, just looking for some direction. Thanks.

Lets see it. Can you send me a side profile picture of it please.

[email protected]


Thanks


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