exactly my point...

im not saying it isnt a truck... im saying its YOUR truck, and not any repainted, new wheels.. pickup.. and if somone were to sell it it would say "ironworks pro touring truck" and not "68 chevy puckup" in the ads headline..... just as everyone knows the Bob Johnson cuda, or "Big Red" and yould put them up for sale as such... im not being negative, im just stating that the GM built, boby by fisher camaro, stops being body by fisher, and gm built, when somone like you puts it on their own chassis and changes the body... its an Ironworks car...

(i know it isnt a 68.. but I cant remember the year off my head, just the crazy cool chassis and stack injected engineengine)

I've only read the first page of responses on this one, I'll read the rest when I'm done giving mine haha.

Being one of the artists or designers on this forum, a young one yes, a newb yes, I want to contribute to this post.

I agree with what some guys are saying, for example "My car started out as a '69 Olds" However....it's still an Olds haha.

I don't think there is a "Line" and if you think there is a line, that's fine, but you changed you car as soon as you put on that new set of Rushforth wheels. If you feel wheels are too miniscule...As soon as you took off that polished trim, or fabricated a custom scoop of some sorts, you changed it. Crossing the line is just that, changing a piece of history, anything different from what the original designers penned it out to be.

I feel crossing the line is all or nothing, theres no in between, you crossed it or you didn't. The Baldwin Motion cars, The Ringbrothers, they not only cross it, they make it disappear, many of us just take a small step over it (Wheels, subtle mods) but then you have to ask...Does it matter?

And there ya have it.... Does it matter. I say NOPE... as long as the owner/builder loves it. Then who cares what other people think. It's your's
do as you feel.

It's the reason I quit doing NCRS Vettes... all they care about is what someone else thinks your car should be. If that's what they want to do with their car - I'm fine with that, I just don't have to be a part of it. Would I criticize them... nope. Would I cut up a numbers matching "real car" - no... but I'll cut up a "non collector version". Doing this stuff is a lot like ART.. beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Some people (damn few :rofl: ) think the Motion cars were the most beautiful thing they've ever seen. Great! I'm happy for them!

:lateral: :woot:

You got that translated spot on! It seems to be exceptionally helpful when your out in public and you just have to say something that fits.

Sometimes a Bastard needs to be called a Bastard, and nothing less. People who verbally "Dis" your ride that you have poured you Blood, Sweat, and Tears, not to mention a truck load of money on, need to be called out.

That's my .02. (I know your not suppose to give a sh*t what they think, but it still make my rear end red when it happens by a couple of jealous idiots)

Anyway, thanks for translating.

Ty

I just did and some pretty bad ass Camaro's popped right up. :D

Camaro
 

When it doesn't have a rear spoiler!
LOL!

When it gets to the point where someone has to as themselves "What is it" that's a good hint>

I read the announcemet by the OP and saw his rendering... IMHO his "She Devil" is a hybrid and no longer anything but, a uniquie creation of its own.

Therfore by my measure its no longer a 69 camaro... its a she devil.
:cheers:

When the VIN tag is no longer accepted as the way to title it and the inspection station says it doesn't look like a Camaro would be the point at which it will be a problem and then and only then should it be one.

My car is no Camaro for the most part but it looks like one because it is one!

At least everyone say's it is.