When does a 69 Camaro cease to be a 69 camaro??

[tyoneal]

To Everyone:

In you all's opinion, how much can you change the body of a 69 Camaro, before it makes the lovers of such cars wince when they see it?

I know that the exterior is important for the optima challenge. It basically must look like what it is, or word there about.

I am having a hard times finding the, "line", on this.

Any thoughts?

"I leaning on the outer shape from a profile from the side, and from each end. Once someone who knows what to look for has a problem quickly deciding, then the line is crossed".

I look forward to hearing from everyone on this. Please be specific.

Thanks and take care,

Ty O'Neal

[rogue]

When an LSX powerplant is put in

[Mr.VENGEANCE]

when Baldwin Motion gets a hold of it.....

[WSSix]

I'd have to say when you seriously change the body lines. I'm thinking fiberglass prostreet or funny car type bodies. Or many of the cafe racers from the 70s/80s. At those points, I believe it's more correct to say it started life as a 69 or mimics a 69. Subtle changes and refinements don't change it.

[Bakaruda]

I would say our cars(no matter what name is on them) are more like the new age streetrods. When people who are not car guys ask me what my car is. I say this, It was a 69 Barracuda. Now it is a streetrod. The only thing 69 on my car is the body.

[DFRESH]

I would say when the 80's snorkel hood scoop makes its appearance.

[phillym5]

I would say........ once the body is altered to the point it is unrecognizable...
But if the grill, head lights, fenders, and rear valance keep there original lines..(even if they are exaggerated) it still is a 69 camaro.

imo.

[mexMan]

As long as the body is made out of steel and it has a cool powerplant it's still a '69. I know why they love to use it, those side lines make it so hot and sexy. But I'm more a 67-68 Camaro guy, that's why I rather see Bad Penny over the Golden Coffin. But I'm more a functionality guy too, that's why rather drive the Golden Coffin over any of the leather seated and sound systems showcars.

Rouge: I'M GOLDEN COFFIN'S #1 FAN!

[nvr2fst]

Originally Posted by phillym5

I would say........ once the body is altered to the point it is unrecognizable...
But if the grill, head lights, fenders, and rear valance keep there original lines..(even if they are exaggerated) it still is a 69 camaro.

imo.

X2 although I dont have a problem with exaggerating certain body lines but from a close distance it still needs to look like a camaro. When Razor first came out you needed to really look at what they did (outside of the typical deck lid stuff and hood mods going on today) They widened the quarters, enhanced all the body line creases including adding a couple here and there and the way a car gets painted can also enhance the true camaro lines. Another example would be the G force Cuda, every piece was modified but in the end it still looked like a cuda representing its heritage. Over the next couple of years I feel that this is going to be the next phase of building custom cars. When you start getting into the body modifications that are typically "non removal" you need to take in consideration the cost. It becomes at times overwhelming and if your the guinea pig for that "new got to have it look" mod to go into production like CF fenders, quarters, etc. in the long run the following consumers will get it at a lower cost. The more custom parts parts go into production the more the custom builders need to go out of the box to the point the car IMO may become hideous. Ive been dealing with this on my car since its been at Ironworks from day one. I havent had any bad feedback on the mods yet..... but if there our opinions I would love to hear them.

Ty I returned your PM

[phillym5]

Originally Posted by nvr2fst

X2 although I dont have a problem with exaggerating certain body lines but from a close distance it still needs to look like a camaro. When Razor first came out you needed to really look at what they did (outside of the typical deck lid stuff and hood mods going on today) They widened the quarters, enhanced all the body line creases including adding a couple here and there and the way a car gets painted can also enhance the true camaro lines. Another example would be the G force Cuda, every piece was modified but in the end it still looked like a cuda representing its heritage. Over the next couple of years I feel that this is going to be the next phase of building custom cars. When you start getting into the body modifications that are typically "non removal" you need to take in consideration the cost. It becomes at times overwhelming and if your the guinea pig for that "new got to have it look" mod to go into production like CF fenders, quarters, etc. in the long run the following consumers will get it at a lower cost. The more custom parts parts go into production the more the custom builders need to go out of the box to the point the car IMO may become hideous. Ive been dealing with this on my car since its been at Ironworks from day one. I havent had any bad feedback on the mods yet..... but if there our opinions I would love to hear them.

Ty I returned your PM

I REALLY like the way yours is coming out. I did similar on my car (flaring the fender line).... but took a different route than yours. I CAN NOT WAIT to see yours done!!