Originally Posted by Musclerodz (Post 568911)

You will need the first gen one.

Originally Posted by 68LS1 (Post 568908)

My understanding is that you need a 1st Gen crossmember. The DSE subframe rails are same for 1st & 2nd gen.

I'm yet to test fit my engine & trans.

Originally Posted by Ben@SpeedTech (Post 569110)

Hey Tony We've got a right hand drive system for a 1st gen. :) We've sent a bunch to Australia.

Musclerodz- Have you compared the two? We've had a 1st gen DSE subframe car come through the shop and the 1st Gen ATS cross member fit great. We haven't had a 2nd gen DSE subframe come through the shop though, so you've got our attention. What makes a 1st Gen ATS mount fit better than a 2nd gen ATS mount on the DSE frame?

Thanks for any insight you can share.

Originally Posted by TonyHuntimer (Post 569057)

Roger,

Are you upgrading to a DSE? Do they offer right-hand drive? :)

Tony Huntimer

Originally Posted by Ben@SpeedTech (Post 569110)

Hey Tony We've got a right hand drive system for a 1st gen. :) We've sent a bunch to Australia.

Musclerodz- Have you compared the two? We've had a 1st gen DSE subframe car come through the shop and the 1st Gen ATS cross member fit great. We haven't had a 2nd gen DSE subframe come through the shop though, so you've got our attention. What makes a 1st Gen ATS mount fit better than a 2nd gen ATS mount on the DSE frame?

Thanks for any insight you can share.

Originally Posted by 68LS1 (Post 569355)

Hi Ben
From what I understand, the DSE hydro formed frame rails are same, for first & second gen, crossmember & body mounts are different. Getting firm info from DSE was more difficult than I am used to from them, very non committal.
This means a second gen trans xmember won't work as the stock subframe mounting is further back. You guys would understand differences best between first & second gen trans xmember mounting points.
I have a first gen trans xmember from Hurst Drivelines coming which I ordered with transmission, will look at fit and compare with the ATS one I have in my 68.
Regards Roger

Originally Posted by Smittys67 (Post 569409)

Buying the sub frame at the big box store saved you some money. But you got 0 info. You can buy headers from Ultimate Headers they fit and are like $1200ish depending on finish. I know they fit I have fit them.

P.s you have to buy them through a dealer.

Originally Posted by badazz81z28 (Post 569432)

"Some Money" is an understatement. :G-Dub: Even though a vendor can provide excellent support and advice, I saved entirely too much money to justify buying advice. Dude I saved nearly $1500, free freight, and I earned $200 in summit bucks. I greatly appreciate the advice given and my target audience in forums is actual consumers who are using this frame. Please don't feel like I stabbed vendors in the back than asked them for help. I don't make $80 an hour so I need to save where I can.

FWIW, I called DSE and they were very helpful, unfortunately they fabricate their cross-members specific for each build.