Full Racepak Digital Dash or a full set of Autometers...
 

Was looking at some of my options for proper gauges and working some numbers

Covan Thunder Road Dash 239.95
Autometer Carbon Oil Pressure 69.95
Autometer Carbon Oil Temperature 55.95
Autometer Carbon Water Temperature 79.95
Autometer Carbon Voltage 47.95
Autometer Carbon Fuel Level 49.95
Autometer Carbon Vacuum 65.95
Autometer Carbon Speedometer 249.95
Autometer Carbon Tachometer 169.95


Total Covan Thunder Road Dash 1029.55

https://lateral-g.net/forums/atta...8&d=1245583675



Anvil Auto Dash 299
Anvil Auto Panel 2 Gauge Panel Insert 69.95
Autometer Carbon Oil Pressure 69.95
Autometer Carbon Oil Temperature 55.95
Autometer Carbon Water Temperature 79.95
Autometer Carbon Voltage 47.95
Autometer Carbon Fuel Level 49.95
Autometer Carbon Vacuum 65.95
Autometer Carbon Speedometer 249.95
Autometer Carbon Tachometer 169.95


Total Anvil Dash 1158.55


Both setups are quickly approaching $1200 territory when all is said and done, I could easily do a comparable racepak setup.


Reggie Jackson's camaro has a STUNNING interior and I really like the look of all the autometer carbon stuff

http://lh5.ggpht.com/__OT3YJ9o9Ao/SO...u4/s800/01.jpg

Then again, the data logging and GPS features of the racepak units is great for track days.

DSE Blank Aluminum Dash 575
Racepak IQ3 Logger Dash 1393.99
Autometer Carbon Oil Pressure 69.95
Autometer Carbon Oil Temperature 55.95
Autometer Carbon Water Temperature 79.95
Autometer Carbon Voltage 47.95
Autometer Carbon Fuel Level 49.95
Autometer Carbon Vacuum 65.95


Total DSE/Racepak Dash 2338.69

Stielow's Camaro X

https://lateral-g.net/tech_articl...stall/0024.jpg

When all is said and done, how much money am I looking at for a racepak dash with the comparable capabilities of the autometer setup.

Racepak.

Have you guys worked with the units quite a bit? They're nice units and It'd get a lot of use at track days.

Do the lap timers work via gps? set the beginning of the lap by marking the finish line type thing?

They look like cool units.

Most of my experience is drag racing with the racepak. But I was reading the IQ3 Manual yesterday and it is just a matter of pushing a button to set the Start Finish location. The Racepak website has lots of info.

Rodger

What do you have for engine? That will really depend on what the Racepak wil truly cost. The cool thing is if you are running efi and have the right ECM, you can datalog direct from the ECM with a CAN connection and not have to buy a bunch of senders or extra guages. If not, then the Racepak senders are not cheap and can drive the price through the roof.

Racepak has several diplay pages so you can decide what is primary, secondary, etc. We will be using their other dash pak in a build we are just strating and will be pulling info direct from the ECM to reduce costs.

Another option is the AIM Sports Strada MXL unit...

http://www.fluke-motorsport.co.uk/im...aim_mxl_01.jpg

$1099

I'm going to have to add sensors for everything. I'm not running any ECU or EFI currently... I was considering leaving the Digital dash to track type duties and only hooking up track critical info like Oil Pressure, Oil Temp and transmission temp.

I can use my existing console to house the typical 4 gauges, fuel, volts, water temp, oil pressure.

So I'd really only need 3 sensors. The gauges can do the rest

I'd go with the set of Autometers, I just love the way they look, retro, and cool, dunno, I've never been fan of digital racepak dashes... I would use them for function, but in this case is for looks too, so I would go with the AM's

The Stack dash is around $1400 - $2000 (depending on options) and you don't need any auxilary guages.. It does oil pressure, oil temp, voltage, tach, speedo, water temp and a few other ones --- all in one unit. Although I'm not sure if the data logging is extra $$$.

Maybe I'm just old but I prefer the analog tach..


http://www.stackltd.com/streetdash1.html

http://www.stackltd.com/images/8130-WHITE-light.gif

This is just my opinion, but after driving Camaro X for close to 1,000 miles on Power Tour a few years ago, I found the Racepak to be... ok. It was trick and has some great features, but what I wasn't a big fan of was the digital number displays. You needed to read the numbers and digest the data instead of simply glancing at a needle. I know that sounds odd and a lame excuse, but after years of just being able to glance at a needle and knowing whether things are ok or not, it was an adjustment. That being said, some inputs on the Racepak can be configured to display as an analog (like the tach, speedo), the Racepak looks especially bad ass at night, it's programmable, and it's something that's outside the box.

Pros and cons. :thumbsup:

Oh, and here's an obligatory Camaro X / Racepak pic. Camaro X is such a bad ass car.

https://lateral-g.net/temp/101mph.jpg

This is what I was looking for.... Yeah I'm not a fan of the digital numbers over gauges, I just like the functionality at the track and the expansion options for data logging.

I think I'm going to go with the regular ole gauge package.

I'm leaning towards the Anvil or Covan Thunder Road dash's. Both are around $250 or so.

I can't believe DSE charges $575 for their aluminum dash.:_paranoid

Had both, prefer gauges by a long shot.

Gauges get my vote. What is the difference between a regular Covans, and a thunder road?

I like the Racepak and what it offers....and it's a real clean install, I like that a lot!! But I have to admit that I favor gauges...for the reasons Scott stated. Never been a fan of digital gauges...but again I do like what the Racepak and the like offer!

My vote......analog.

Regular Covans are known for their crap quality. John Covan moved on from the company and started a new company where he could control quality. I submitted a request for pricing on a blank 1969 dash and got a personal phone call from the man within an hour.

He said hes working on getting a quality product out there. Thunder road is his new line...

Not to split hairs, but the DSE dash is made of 18 guage steel, and you really cant compare it to covans. I have a covans in my 67, its plastic ka ka, fit was horrible and when the guages went in and tightened up, the plastic started to twist a bit causing the guages to kind of point outward.

I recently picked up a DSE dash for my new 69 build its a quality piece, that becomes kind of a structural part of the whole dash assembly. Looked like theres a fair amount of tig welding that goes into the fab of that part, it certainly has a lot of bends in it.

Rich

Ohhhh man, those racepaks are dead sexy! :hail:

Love my DSE dash. I like the capabilities of the race pack, but like the race look of the dse dash and the huge 5 inch gauges.

http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/a...ack1969/26.jpg
http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/a...k1969/LG28.jpg

I don't auto-x, nor want to, but that may change in the future.
I like the set up the Reggie has in his Camaro and Todd's set up. Both look very clean. (But then again, I may be biased. I love Todd's car!!)lol:lol: :_paranoid

No doubt its an insanely nice piece. Its also the most elegant and simple of them. Keep in mind when I refer to Covan's I'm not referring to the old "Covan's Classic" line of parts. John abandoned that company after it was bought from him and quality went to hell. I'm referring to Covan's new company. Higher quality product...

http://covansthunderroad.com/

https://lateral-g.net/forums/show...ighlight=covan

Its definitely the most beautiful dash available. I am definitely going with the 5inch speedo/tach. Its an amazing look.

Btw me and you need to get together and have a battle of the big blocks :willy:

Todd - I couldn’t agree with you more and your interior looks amazing! You wouldn’t happen to have a template for your DSE insert & gauges would you?

You ready for an ass whooping?:D

DSE has it....thanks man:cheers:

It depends....are you looking for look or function?

The Autometers look WAY better....not a big fan of the look of the digital stuff......but the Racepak has ALOT more function for a race car.....

any day punk :lol:

Looking forward to it. I'm still prepping my car so it will be a little while until we make music.:thumbsup:

Your car is plenty sorted trust me. Your car is like a pebble beach supercar compared to mine :lol:

I'll let you know next track event. I have a few friends that can give you some free instruction as well. Its always good fun.

LOL....I have the accumulator mounted but I'm waiting on some back ordered 10 an hose from Jegs. Oil cooler is next on the list. I just haven't decided what route I'm taking.

Just do a small cooler in front of the radiator, you can always do a trans cooler as well. I'm not sure about your motor, but I've been told my numerous people the 502 has one of the best oiling path of any motor out there due to its marine use. Even in high g cornering/braking, I rarely see the oil pressure drop.

The temp is what concerns me. Out of sight out of mind :_paranoid :lol:

I'm not one of those lucky guys when it comes to hoping for the best. I'd grenade my **** the first time out. :rofl: I plan on running it regularly so I'll make sure it's set up properly first. I've heard the small air oil coolers are extremely innefficient. I'm still considering a dual pass radiator with the cooler built in....

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say its overkill, but then again, so is most of your car, in a good way :thumbsup:

I'm going to be adding a oil temp sensor before the next outing... Will see:willy:

If you are only looking at 3 inputs, then stick with guages and find a different type of data logging device. There are several out there that are very reasonable.

Racepak !

http://hubgarage.s3.amazonaws.com/ph...il2_detail.jpg

http://hubgarage.s3.amazonaws.com/ph...ne2_detail.jpg

sunoco twist
 

nothing fancy but i like it:unibrow:

I love hole car!! Awsome!!!:bow:

Why not consider something other than the UDX ?? How about the IQ3 ??

http://www.racepak.com/images/iq3dash.jpg

Iq3
 

What would the total cost be for the setup including the IQ3?

IQ3 is what we will be using. It is not that much more expensive than a full set of Autometers if you are running EFI with the right ECM you can datalog from and don;t have to buy a bunch of senders. They are not cheap.

Not as bad as it has been portrayed:

250-DS-IQ3, IQ3 DISPLAY DASH = 625.00
Just the dash, you install sensors for your needs.

250-DS-IQ3EFI, IQ3 EFI LOGGER DASH = 1495.00
As it states, this model is for EFI, which I believe you stated you were not running... but this price includes 32 channels of data-logging capability.

250-DS-IQ3LD, IQ3 LOGGER DASH = 1395.00
Similar to the 250-DS-IQ3... but, with 32 channels of data-logging capability. You install the sensors for your needs and it has the ability to record.

Read up on the information in the link I directed you too in my last post. There are infinite capabilities for keeping it on the cheap... or going to a full blown EFI (E38, Bigstuff, MEFI etc etc) with data-logging capabilities. The IQ3 is a no brainier for me.... as I was in your exact situation dealing with the idea of $3000 for the required Autometer components to suit my needs... or $1495 for the IQ3 which exceeds the basic needs AND having 32 channels of DA, GPS speed, GPS track mapping and a 3 axis accelerometer for doing advanced development of spring and damper packaging. But... I am also going EFI... so there are inherent capabilities with that as well.

Now I pretty much get the same DA and instrumentation with the IQ3 as I would have with the $3000 in Autometer and the other $7000 in the Advantage Motorsports Data Acquisition system to meet the same requirements. Oh yeah... and it plugs right into the E38 ECU and CANBUS I/O structure.