Speedtech Subframe??
 

I haven't seen many guys running the Speedtech sub-frame for the 69 Camaro. Mostly just the DSE units. Cost wise Speedtech has a big advantage and you can use different spindle and control arm set ups on their unit. Sub only weighs 125 lbs as well. Anyone have any feedback with the Speedtech unit as a comparison?

http://www.speedtechperformance.com/...prd_lg_145.jpg

i have it but haven't been able to drive on it yet. i also upgraded to ATS tall spindles. for the price its very nice. for performance there isn't enough feed back yet to tell. i do have 10" wheels with 295" on it though so thats a big advantage over the stock sub.

Here's one in progress:
https://lateral-g.net/forums/showthread.php4?t=29097

There are lots of Speed Tech subs in the build phase (Youth Pastor Chris comes to mind and Sherp's Nova I think), and Bill's Evade has one as well. Also, Remember that Blake's Nova came in 5th @ Optima.

From a personal observation, their stuff looks (complete sub w ATS Spindles) real good and I'd use it.

Yep I have one in mine. Haven't driven it yet but so far am very impressed with the quality of it. Even more impressed after seeing how Blake's Nova did. Like Ron said, he came in 5th and then his next race came in 1st.

I got to ride and drive Roger's 69 Camaro last year and the thing handles like its on rails. We took a lot of twisties and there was no roll and it held a line. :thumbsup: I had already had my track time package sitting in my garage and the "test drive" just reassured my choice.:yes:

It's been proven over and over. The driver makes the BIGGEST difference. Stielow won because he practiced all summer, had the best car, and was the best driver. Look at guys like Cassanova and Shipka with their stock subs. I wouldn't blink and eye running the speedtech stuff.

Normally I would love to disagree with you Todd and Mr. Weld...but.....you are completely right:lol: - Driver make the difference- look at Mary with leaf springs and stock stuff handing out lunches all day long on the autocross.

What I've noticed so far is the amount of room it frees up- plus a big tire. As far as performance...well I've got a little track time in an import- my wife's daily driver- yes she beat my time, but that's not the point!! I couldn't tell the difference between a stock sub or custom anything- but someday I'll be a race-car driver- ya right- Chris

BTW - the Speedtech stuff is killer- and they are great guys to deal with

Thanks man, I wouldn't admit my woman out raced me. :D

That all being said, a great driver can only take a poorly built or tuned car so far. That is the beauty of a DSE or Speedtech setup. They have done most of the work for you. I guarantee Mary didn't just jumjp in her Camaro and it was near as fast as it was before the rebuild. Lot's of tweaking to maximize the car and match the drivers feel is key.

The track package is a killer deal for everything you would be getting.

http://www.speedtechperformance.com/...rod/prd205.htm

Another vote of support for the SpeedTech stuff. I'm using their Chicane pieces, ATS Spindles and their upper and lower CAs in the One Lap car and I've ordered a complete sub and torque arm for the '69.

Good stuff, great customer service, and proven to work.

Just my 2 bits.

I've been doing a fair amount of research and want to do the majority of work myself. The SpeedTech Track Package looks to be a very good deal in all aspects performance, quality, fit, ease of installation.

I got one - have not had it on the ground yet but the price and quality of components have impressed me so far. :thumbsup:

How do the high clearance arms work? Can they be put on a stock sub?

Nope, the high clearance arm are designed for their subframe only. They have a different upper arm for the stock subframe. Talk to Roger or Blake they can get you all the info you need.

Actually we have found they work really well on the stock sub IF your using the ATS TALL Spindles. other wise we will not sell them for a stock sub.

i though that comment about them not working on stock subs sounded off as i was almost positive that james put them on the one lap car...

Yeah... they seem to work pretty good on my heap :) but I wasn't going to get into a disagreement about it - my car has lots of stuff that "doesn't fit" anything else.

What issue is there when trying to use them with a stock spindle?

Oops my bad, I knew there was something about the high clearance arms with the stock spindle/sub frame but I couldn't remember. That's why all those questions should go to the vendor.

Blake
Is the upper arm the only one modified for more clearance, or is the lower arm different also? Is the lower arm only made for a coilover, or do you have a version for a regular spring?

James
Are you still running the Pozzi modified steering arms on the OLC? I was looking for the old post where you showed what was done, I found it but all the pictures are gone. Any chance you could link them again?

Yeah - we've still got the modified steering arms on the car with seemingly no issues to date. When we got back from one event last year (I think it was the UFO weekend at Reno-Fernely immortilized by Mary in this months issue of CP) some of the alignment specs seemed a bit out and we questioned whether we were putting too much stress on them at full lock against the steering stops but they appear to be fine. We'll probably mag them when we change over to the new spindles with ZR1 hubs just to be sure.

I'll see about restoring the pics - I have them, they just got shuffled when the directories changed after the last website update.

I am also using the high clearance arms with a stock subframe (and L&H Kustoms tall spindles). The subframe just needs a little clearance grinding on the UCA mount. I don't think I could run the 275s up front with out these arms.

I think the difference in sway bar mounting methods (and possibly some other things) makes the LCAs NOT interchangeable between stock and the SpeedTech subframes.

[QUOTE=barraza;330429]Blake
Is the upper arm the only one modified for more clearance, or is the lower arm different also? Is the lower arm only made for a coilover, or do you have a version for a regular spring?

no the lower as well as the sway bar are also modified to give maximum clearance. the lower will only accept a coil over, we moved the coil lower mount outboard as far as possible to help with the motoin ratio also, gives the better better control.

The fact that there is no Droop/ bend in the arm and no upper bump stop means that there is a "Small Chance" the arm could come in contact with the frame when using a STOCK HEIGHT spindle under full extention.
Not to worry because we will not sell them unles you are also buying the TALL SPINDLE or the sub frame. Sorry.

Add me to the list of proud owners of the Speed Tech front sub with ATS tall spindles!
I have driven two Camaros with this setup and their rear suspension as well and totally loved the ride, handling, install and stance! And then there's the customer service...top notch!! :thumbsup:

Huge vote for Speedtech anything----awesome people and great products---

Doug

I've got the speedtech sub. It's a nice piece. So it weighs 125 pounds, what does a stock sub weigh? Getting ready to install the old style sbc with a tko and a scatter shield. Will the manual linkage work or would a hydraulic clutch be prefered?

if you told us you were using the manual linkage when you ordered it then you would have received the Z bar bracket that attaches to the sub. if you need one let me know and we can send one to you No Charge, just shipping.

so either will work.