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Blake Foster 06-07-2012 06:49 PM

Speedtech Second Gen Torque Arm
 
Well it has been a bit of a wait, Speedtech now has 2 versions for the 70-73 and 75-81
3" exhaust over the rear end is not an issue. 345 tires with NO FLOOR CUTTING. mini tub required obviously. ride height as low as the tire to fender well will allow. sa with the firs gen the only welding required is the rear shock cross member.
price with QA1 shocks is 2199.99 ridetech shocks are 250.00 upgrade.

http://i1235.photobucket.com/albums/...a/DSC_1400.jpg

http://i1235.photobucket.com/albums/...a/DSC_1395.jpg

XLexusTech 06-07-2012 07:02 PM

Gorgeous love the cut outs..

Firebirdsteve 06-07-2012 08:13 PM

That is sweet.....I'll have to get me one of those set up's!!! :thumbsup: :lol:

Ron in SoCal 06-07-2012 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Firebirdsteve (Post 418549)
That is sweet.....I'll have to get me one of those set up's!!! :thumbsup: :lol:

Better hurry up Steve or someone will beat you to it! :thumbsup:

Nice job Blake! :cheers:

DEIVIONCRX 06-08-2012 03:59 PM

Available for the 10bolt?

coolwelder62 06-10-2012 01:22 PM

Wow!! Very Well thought out.Everybody come's out w/the neat stuff after I spend hour's in the garage trying to build my own junk.:willy:

SLO_Z28 06-10-2012 02:07 PM

For that price it comes with the 9 inch housing? Can you use the 10 bolt? Why no 74?

Blake Foster 06-10-2012 10:40 PM

No 9" Housing for the 2195 price if you want a complete bolt in 9" with Strange 31 spline axles S case any gear ratio, brackets welded on fully assembled it is another 2995.00 710.00 if you just want the housing.

10 bolt is a posibility yes have to get to making some pinion mounts but other than that we can do a 10 bolt

Typo on the available years 74 seems like a bit of a bastard year as that is when they changed the floor pans. so either way we can do it. probably need a picture of the pan to verify which X memeber to send

DEIVIONCRX 06-11-2012 08:14 AM

Very good. I'm still in the rust repair part of my build but i eventually planned on some sort of Torque Arm rear, BMR's pretty much the only option for a prebuilt setup right now.

Blake Foster 06-11-2012 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by DEIVIONCRX (Post 419131)
Very good. I'm still in the rust repair part of my build but i eventually planned on some sort of Torque Arm rear, BMR's pretty much the only option for a prebuilt setup right now.

WERE....... past tense

srh3trinity 06-11-2012 01:06 PM

Argh, I can't see the pictures at work. Good work allowing for exhaust over the axle.

WSSix 06-11-2012 04:20 PM

Very cool! Do you guys have any testing completed to show the motion or verify the design? Aside from offering an alternative, why did you guys choose to build a TA setup? I'm so glad more options are becoming available for the 2nd gens. Only problem will be deciding which route to go when I finally start building mine.

Thanks Blake

Blake Foster 06-12-2012 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by WSSix (Post 419247)
Very cool! Do you guys have any testing completed to show the motion or verify the design? Aside from offering an alternative, why did you guys choose to build a TA setup? I'm so glad more options are becoming available for the 2nd gens. Only problem will be deciding which route to go when I finally start building mine.

Thanks Blake

As far as testing goes, the design and 80% of the parts are identical to the First Gen/Nova parts and design. the only real differance it the front X members, so yes we have tested it in my Nova.
What "motion" are you refering to?

The design allows 345 tires on the rear with no modifications other than mini tubing.

We chose the torque arm for the following reasons. Ease of instalation and set up. NO FLOOR cutting or modifications required. There were/are so many 4 links available we wanted to do something of a different design. Our design allows for lots of exhaust room. 3" over the axle is no problem. There is one bracket that needs to be welded between the frame rails. thats it! if you purchase the rear housing it comes with all the brackets welded on as well. it is Very compliant on the street as well as the auto x and road course, to be honest the only adjustment we have ever made is to the shock damping from street,autoX, road course.
Our testing and the results from the events we have been to confirm both that it works VERY WELL and is as fast or faster than ANY of the competitions parts.

DEIVIONCRX 06-12-2012 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by killer69 (Post 419135)
WERE....... past tense

Exactly. I love all the suspensions you guys have built. I had high hopes for Hotchkis's 3 Link for the 2gen till i saw the pricetag.

WSSix 06-13-2012 05:57 PM

Thanks Blake. I figured the design was very similar the a Nova's setup. I just didn't want to assume. Motion wasn't a great word to use. I was just referring to how the rear end would respond going through it's movements, anti squat, etc

Sounds like a good idea and I'm glad those of us with 2nd gens have more options now.

Blake Foster 06-13-2012 06:57 PM

Did i answer your question?

WSSix 06-14-2012 11:58 AM

Oh yes. Thank you.

jake72ss 06-15-2012 06:33 AM

Now all you need to do is build a torque arm for chevelles and you will make me Happy.

Blake Foster 06-15-2012 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by jake72ss (Post 419770)
Now all you need to do is build a torque arm for chevelles and you will make me Happy.

we have already talked about it.

Blake Foster 07-11-2012 09:54 AM

Here are some new pictures of the parts finished and installed.
The Torque arm is virtually the same as what we have for the First Gen Camaro, so the performance proven, same install , No floor cutting. if you are planning on running a 335/345 rear tire you will have to mini tub obviously, but that is IT. NO other modifications to the frame, trunk floor, back seat. Only the shock X member needs to be welded in.
There is plenty of room for 3" exhaust over the axle.
This is our new Second Gen Test car, it has the Chicane 9" floater rear in it as well as the StreetFighter front subframe.
I will have some ride height pictures next week.


http://i1235.photobucket.com/albums/...TorqueArm4.jpg

http://i1235.photobucket.com/albums/...TorqueArm3.jpg

http://i1235.photobucket.com/albums/...TorqueArm2.jpg

http://i1235.photobucket.com/albums/...TorqueArm1.jpg

Here is the basic kit shown with everything that comes in the kit.

http://i1235.photobucket.com/albums/...oTorquearm.jpg

And here shown with the Chicane 9" it is also available with a standard 9" aswell.

http://i1235.photobucket.com/albums/...mWChicane9.jpg

ma73z 07-11-2012 04:44 PM

:thumbsup: :thumbsup: That's awesome Blake! I'm looking forward to seeing more pics. Wish I had waited to get rear suspension till now :faint: Anybody wanna buy a DSE leaf setup :lol:

HWY Nova 07-13-2012 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by killer69 (Post 424140)

Blake,

That is an awesome photo!!!!! Looks like you guys did your homework.

I few years back at the Columbus show you mentioned possibly manufacturing systems for early Mustangs. Any updates for us? There has got to be some design/parts commonality that you can take advantage of.


--Eric

Blake Foster 07-13-2012 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HWY Nova (Post 424614)
Blake,

That is an awesome photo!!!!! Looks like you guys did your homework.

I few years back at the Columbus show you mentioned possibly manufacturing systems for early Mustangs. Any updates for us? There has got to be some design/parts commonality that you can take advantage of.


--Eric

We can do a custom Mustang Torque arm any time we have done a 67 and a 70 so let me know.

gerno 07-13-2012 08:48 PM

How does the upper mount on the coilover attach? It appears to be to a crossmember but I don't see it in the photo of the dismantled parts. Can you elaborate on this?

Blake Foster 07-14-2012 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by gerno (Post 424671)
How does the upper mount on the coilover attach? It appears to be to a crossmember but I don't see it in the photo of the dismantled parts. Can you elaborate on this?

yes it is a weld in cross member, good spot, it is not in the picture.
it is the same as the first gen camaro , just a dirrerent shape. simple part to install there is about 6" of welding on each side directly to the frame rail. it actually mounts to the bottom and inside of the factory frame rail.

http://i1235.photobucket.com/albums/...a/DSC02912.jpg


you can see the angle parts on the end that is what gets welded to the frame rails.

k7king 08-21-2012 01:47 PM

Can you show a picture from the side of the car? How much does this hang below the Subframe?
Thanks

Blake Foster 08-22-2012 02:45 PM

here are a couple pics kinda hard to see but the rear is at full droop
http://i1235.photobucket.com/albums/...a/DSC_1464.jpg

http://i1235.photobucket.com/albums/...a/DSC_1462.jpg

as you can see it actually is higher in the car than the sub frame.

DB Z28 08-22-2012 03:10 PM

You guys look like you did a very nice job on that set up. nice

HWY Nova 08-22-2012 03:33 PM

Impressive!



--Eric

k7king 08-23-2012 04:59 AM

Perfect. I'll be calling and ordering one soon.

JasonElvisHeard 10-16-2012 07:56 PM

great craftsmanship on the TQ arm! Deserves a bump! :thumbsup:


Jason

dhutton 06-18-2017 06:52 PM

Anybody out there installed the 12 bolt version in a second gen?

Thanks,
Don

Blake Foster 06-19-2017 10:05 AM

i know we have sold a ton of them so they are out there.!!

dhutton 06-19-2017 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blake Foster (Post 660945)
i know we have sold a ton of them so they are out there.!!

12 bolts in a second gen? Did you guys install one as part of the development? Any pics?

Thanks,
Don

Blake Foster 06-20-2017 12:22 PM

We have not installed one here with a 12 bolt. in a second gen first gen yes.
Seems most want to change to the 9" i can see if i can find some pics form one of our customers that has used a 12 bolt
stand by

BMR Sales 06-21-2017 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blake Foster (Post 660992)
We have not installed one here with a 12 bolt. in a second gen first gen yes.
Seems most want to change to the 9" i can see if i can find some pics form one of our customers that has used a 12 bolt
stand by

Since most 2nd Gens came with a 10 Bolt, we see most people going to a 9" too!

Blake Foster 06-28-2017 10:39 AM

we have not had any feed back from customers with this info. i am sure we would have at least done a mock up but it would have been a long time ago. there is no doubt that the 2 gen tunnel is small compared to the first gen. the other limiting factor on ride height in the 2 gen is the outer fender. i would be surprised if the pinion mount and tires didn't contact at the same time.

Blake Foster 06-28-2017 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by dhutton (Post 661359)
Well I am not going to argue with you but I know when I called I was told that even the 9" required trimming of the seat belt reinforcing plate even though that 9" pinion mount is shorter and sits 2" farther back in the tunnel.

Anyway tunnel is now modified. Moving on. Now you have some feedback... :)

Car also has your Extreme subframe. I have to say it looks awesome, especially that rack...

Thanks,
Don

Well thank you for the feed back. can you send me some pics of the mod you needed to do?

DBasher 06-28-2017 10:01 PM

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Speedtech being represented in the NW! I never saw the front end but was able to peak under the back and see that beautiful TA, great looking car with the potential to be dang quick.
:thumbsup:


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