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Old 10-29-2006, 07:09 PM
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I have been developing some Billet core support bars for some time now, and am very close to releasing them for sale.

Several people have been given a preview of them for purposes of getting imput on the final product . . . . . . now I see this:

https://lateral-g.net/forums/showthread.php4?t=6482

The simillarities in styling are just too great to assume a coincidence here. I am sorry that my first post here has to be under these circumstances but right now I am almost speechless that this has happened.

I guess I must congratulate Twist on getting them to market first . . . . . .

Here are the pictures of my pre-production units.

I have put alot of time and effort into this project only to be . . . . . well, you be the judge . . . . 'Crockett





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Old 10-29-2006, 07:19 PM
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Yeah- you got scooped. I would remake them like some kind of turnbucle setup. I can't imagine the attachment brackets in my head. But solid aluminum bar stock with small rod ends would be cool. I'm not a Camaro guy (yet) so I don't know if it's already been done. The Stang guys have strut tower bars with the solid bar and rod end all over the place.
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Old 10-29-2006, 07:57 PM
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Actually I like the look of yours better. Clean look from the top.
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Stylistically they are very different. Functionally they are identical but as was said, how different can you make them and still have them bolt on?

I'm sure the market is big enough for both. Some will prefer your styling and some the ones from Twist Machine.

To be honest I'm surprised someone just now came out with this product.. it's a pretty obvious concept.

Your's look very nice.

And I would resist the urge to call "shenanigans" unless you know for sure..
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to be honest i like yours alot better
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...I'm sure the market is big enough for both. Some will prefer your styling and some the ones from Twist Machine.

To be honest I'm surprised someone just now came out with this product.. it's a pretty obvious concept.
I also believe Ring Brothers is developing a brace also.
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Old 10-29-2006, 08:33 PM
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personally I think they are unecessary in the first place, even the stock ones. Second it still blows my mind how much money people spend on useless "bling" parts. I felt the same about the hood hinges, but at least those do something. Whats next? billet inner fenders? aluminum is the new chrome
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Old 10-29-2006, 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by 'Crockett
I have been developing some Billet core support bars for some time now, and am very close to releasing them for sale.

Several people have been given a preview of them for purposes of getting imput on the final product . . . . . . now I see this:

https://lateral-g.net/forums/showthread.php4?t=6482

The simillarities in styling are just too great to assume a coincidence here. I am sorry that my first post here has to be under these circumstances but right now I am almost speechless that this has happened.



I have put alot of time and effort into this project only to be . . . . . well, you be the judge . . . . 'Crockett





They are similar in that they are straight and bolt down on each end, but then again any support made as a direct replacement will be the same. As far as design I don't think they copy yours at all.

Yours:





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The simillarities in styling are just too great to assume a coincidence here. I am sorry that my first post here has to be under these circumstances but right now I am almost speechless that this has happened.
We didn't copy your part. I have never seen your part before this post. Similarities are based on the fact that is is a long narrow part that is CNC machined using common tools and practices (i.e. slots).
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I guess I must congratulate Twist on getting them to market first . . . . . .
Thank you. We're very proud. Let this should serve as a valuable lesson to you. Your part has not been copied until it is ACTUALLY a part. Spilling the beans to a few people is not the same as design, investment and production of actual products.

While I owe you absolutely nothing, I will be glad to provide a list of people--well known industry people--whom I spoke with about this product. They will confirm that we had this idea about a year ago and had a prototype at the beginning of the summer.

Maybe that will help. Or maybe you will be content in the fact that two people had the same idea--which helps confirm that it is in fact a good idea. Those Mororo chrome fender struts have been sold for 30 years and no one bothered to make a set out of billet--FOR 30 YEARS!! Trust me, you and I are not rocket scientists for developing this part. It has literally been staring everyone in the face since the popularization of the CNC machine.

Sorry to ruin your day, but this is a coincidence. You are not the first person to cut a slot into a long narrow piece of aluminum. Deal with it. Oh and by the way, nice rad support cover. Did you invent that too?
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Old 10-30-2006, 07:45 AM
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Steve has talked with me about doing these for at least 6 months.
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