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Old 02-19-2007, 07:12 PM
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who else would like to see a magazine specifically dedicated to road racing, auto crossing and pro touring. 100% g machines and real muscle? you always see the circle track, car craft, super chevy and all that jazz.. how realistic would it be to get some one on the scene and get them to put a pro touring dedicated mag? or does one already exsist and i just havent seen it?
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Old 02-19-2007, 07:43 PM
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There is Grassroots Motorsports ... but they dont really know of the "Pro Touring" gig.
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I inquired about one on the PT site and it got shot down. I'll subscribe!
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Old 02-19-2007, 08:09 PM
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To me, popular hotrodding is the best magazine dedicated towards the PT-gmachine movement. I think PHR gets a lot of inspiration from this site as well as others for their articles.
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I think if you do a magazine like that you'd have to do something "more". I think it'd have to be about more than just the cars, more of a G-Machine Lifestyle. To a lot of car guys I think cars are a big part of their lives. Take a look at a few of the tuner magazines (I know to some it would probably burn their hands and cause temporary blindness) and check out the format, it's about cars, clothes, basically a lifestyle and I think this has a lot to do with why the japanese car culture has exploded and is so appealing to the target audience. I'm just thinking out loud here. How about a G-Machine culture magazine? Why not? The unique thing about a typical g-machine is that it has more than one purpose - you can road race, autocross, drag race, take it to the local cruise in and even run the honey-do trip to the store (the married guys know about this LOL!). I'd think you could have a lot to put in a magazine - heck start out with a quarterly? G-Machine Quarterly? This kind of magazine with the right vision could help take pro-touring to the next level.

Just my thoughts, I'd definately subscribe!
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Old 02-21-2007, 12:32 AM
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I think if you do a magazine like that you'd have to do something "more". I think it'd have to be about more than just the cars, more of a G-Machine Lifestyle. To a lot of car guys I think cars are a big part of their lives. Take a look at a few of the tuner magazines (I know to some it would probably burn their hands and cause temporary blindness) and check out the format, it's about cars, clothes, basically a lifestyle and I think this has a lot to do with why the japanese car culture has exploded and is so appealing to the target audience. I'm just thinking out loud here. How about a G-Machine culture magazine? Why not? The unique thing about a typical g-machine is that it has more than one purpose - you can road race, autocross, drag race, take it to the local cruise in and even run the honey-do trip to the store (the married guys know about this LOL!). I'd think you could have a lot to put in a magazine - heck start out with a quarterly? G-Machine Quarterly? This kind of magazine with the right vision could help take pro-touring to the next level.

Just my thoughts, I'd definately subscribe!
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well said. Those are good points.
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I think PHR does a pretty good job of including the pro touring crowd. After all almost every issue has lat-g members rides in it. I just got a new one today and it has a several page right up on Scott's white 71 chevelle with the twin turbo LS1, including a 2 page picture!! April 2007. Looks like Steve's new ford on the cover. What is our culture? Going to car shows every chance we get? The available mags cover a lot of them. Go to cool junk yards? I remember a cool article in PHR about junk yards and included my favorite one. Memory Lane. I know that I just work, check out what shows and races I can, work on my car, hang out with friends and fam, and dream of someday going on power tour. If a new protour mag came out I would no dought subscribe, but I think it is already pretty well covered. Just my opinion.
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I don't know how much "culture" you're going to pry from a bunch of gear heads. Here's some of mine; T-shirt, jeans, Oberon, barbecue, heavy metal, football, hockey, porn. That about sums it up.

Still, not a bad idea though. I too was kicking the idea around of starting a G-Machine based magazine and I even bought some books on how to start up a rag a few years ago. My thoughts were to make it more like Maxim magazine where the articles were more subjective and...yeah...it would touch on some other stuff like music, movies, gadgets, etc. You know...make the magazine look and feel different than the traditional car magazines. Up until about a couple of years ago, you could have swapped the covers of Chevy High Performance, Super Chevy, Car Craft, Hot Rod, and a few others and not been able to tell the difference. I think Hot Rod has changed that though. Their magazine does have a different look to it, and PHR has definitely upped the quality of their photography.

I will say this though...for it to succeed it has GOT to be about the car features. Less tech...more cars. Today, people buy car magazines for the cars. They get their tech (all the tech they're ever going to need, in fact) from the world wide web.

My $.02 anyway.
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I think Popular hotrodding has taken the first big step on pro touring. And that is the one and only reason i renewed my subscribtion.I think mule series started it all.
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"I don't know how much "culture" you're going to pry from a bunch of gear heads. Here's some of mine; T-shirt, jeans, Oberon, barbecue, heavy metal, football, hockey, porn. That about sums it up."

wow, that's ridiculously accurate (at least for me). i'd like to see a half and half deal myself. when PHR calls 20K a "budget" i can't help but scoff at them. i'm not ignorant enough to think that it doesn't take that kind of money or way more to build the cars they feature but that's what i mean by half and half - half high enders built with money and half customs built in some guy's garage that are actually budget cars. 350 hp isn't as lame as they say when they're building 10 thousand dollar engines and I'm scratching parts together in the junk yard. i guess all i'm saying is, show me some cool stuff that people are doing at home that doesn't get much page time normally that I could actually afford to do myself. maybe they aren't as fast as the jillion dollar cars on the road course but they're still fun.
then again, PHR will show a car that has ripped seats or something built for 10 grand and i say, that's what i'm talkin about cause it's realistic for me.
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