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Old 05-18-2013, 09:29 AM
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I'm not too happy right now. My 3.5 year old Red Top that mainly sat disconnected from the car is no good. I'm having a real hard time justifying spending $200 again on another one considering it didn't last any longer than a normal AutoZone battery. Hell, AutoZone will prorate their stuff after 3 years even but not Optima. So what are my options if any? The battery sits in the trunk. I don't have it in a box with a vent so I believe that means I have to use an AGM battery versus a liquid battery, correct?

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Sorry for the bitch fest but $200 is a lot of money to me and I expect more for the premium price they ask.
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I'm not too happy right now. My 3.5 year old Red Top that mainly sat disconnected from the car is no good. I'm having a real hard time justifying spending $200 again on another one considering it didn't last any longer than a normal AutoZone battery. Hell, AutoZone will prorate their stuff after 3 years even but not Optima. So what are my options if any? The battery sits in the trunk. I don't have it in a box with a vent so I believe that means I have to use an AGM battery versus a liquid battery, correct?

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Sorry for the bitch fest but $200 is a lot of money to me and I expect more for the premium price they ask.
Have you tried reconditioning it with the chargers made for that purpose? I have saved several that way that I thought were dead. Regular chargers don't bring them back. I have a Ctek like this one, but they make less expensive models.

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I used my Battery Tender Jr all through the night last night. It's a slow charge charger/tender. It showed fully charged this morning as did the gauge on the dash. Hit the starter and it doesn't have the power to start. Look at the gauge and it's down a full volt immediately after trying to start. There's also a small amount of acid that seeped/leaked out of the battery.

What's the difference between a Ctek unit and a regular charger?

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I used my Battery Tender Jr all through the night last night. It's a slow charge charger/tender. It showed fully charged this morning as did the gauge on the dash. Hit the starter and it doesn't have the power to start. Look at the gauge and it's down a full volt immediately after trying to start. There's also a small amount of acid that seeped/leaked out of the battery.

What's the difference between a Ctek unit and a regular charger?

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It may be that the battery is shot, but this is how the Ctek does it. A regular charger can cook these batteries. I've had Optima batteries that would not hold a charge that worked fine after being on the Ctek charger; of course your results may be different.

http://smartercharger.com/

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Old 05-18-2013, 10:44 AM
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Thanks for the info, Jody.

If I do decide to get another battery, do you know if I have to use an AGM battery since the battery is technically in the passenger compartment? I've always been told the normal liquid acid batteries have to be in a sealed box that's vented to the outside if they are in the trunk. Something about vapors while being charged by the alternator.
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I went with an Odyssey Extreme AGM. Then theres no liquid acid getting flung around , its sealed , its got a steel jacket built around it from the factory and no hydrogen in the trunk/ passenger compartment.

I put my battery in the trunk last year, then got rear ended a few months later and that was the first thing that came to my mind when I finally got the trunk opened.
http://shop.odysseybattery.com/p/pc1200mjt-a?pp=12

I bought a CTEK charger also. Batteries are heavy little suckers
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honestly get a good 51r battery for under $100. If it goes bad it should be under warranty everytime
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I think I'm going to give the Ctek a try. The way I figure it is that I'll need a tender anyway and this unit will also do that as well as charge and maybe recondition the battery. If it turns out the battery is indeed bad, oh well. I will need a tender anyway. The Battery Tender Jr I was using is an extra one so maybe I can sell it and recover some of my money. I'm getting the Ctek off Amazon for $90 shipped. Got my fingers crossed that it'll work.
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I think I'm going to give the Ctek a try. The way I figure it is that I'll need a tender anyway and this unit will also do that as well as charge and maybe recondition the battery. If it turns out the battery is indeed bad, oh well. I will need a tender anyway. The Battery Tender Jr I was using is an extra one so maybe I can sell it and recover some of my money. I'm getting the Ctek off Amazon for $90 shipped. Got my fingers crossed that it'll work.
That's a good idea. If it works you save money, and if not you'll love the charger anyway. Good luck!
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Wire an SAE pigtail to the Monster and use the Battery Tender to float charge it............from what I've observed on the Ducati forum they tend to need it.
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