Canadian government wants to ban leaded fuel for racing!

[Brian46]

Effective jan/09 if it goes through the government wants to ban the use of leaded fuels for competition vehicles in motor sports in canada! which only covers 0.003% of all fuel usage in canada. 1.5% of the fuel usage in canada is leaded small personal aircraft, which is infinately larger in comparision to 0.003% yet they want to attack the small negligible number instead of the larger one, as they still exempt aircraft using lead... what a crock. To top it off they want to propose this ban because they think lead is even more harmful then previously determined and the exposure to it in limited quantities is still to much and can effect pregnant woman and infants. Yet they have no conclusive contaminant testing or research to back up their claims. and instead of warning people of the health risk of attending racing events and letting them choose. They would rather ban it and potentially kill racing in canada. Therefore causing a huge negative economic impact, direct and indirect to businesses, people, and supporting bodies.

link to the bill

http://canadagazette.gc.ca/partI/200...egle1-e.html#1

[tyoneal]

Politicians are at their best when their on Vacation.

I feel for you guys. I'm sure the Do good nicks in California will try that Crap next.

Blah!!

[Bowtieracing]

I have allways kept canadians smart people. We dont need any more garbage on air or somewhere else. Racers can race with unleaded too. Even better ( and faster ) with E85 !

I think its Bush who is only one in this planet who dont understand the globar warming and what is causing it

[Blake Foster]

Originally Posted by Bowtieracing

I have always kept Canadians smart people. We don't need any more garbage on air or somewhere else. Racers can race with unleaded too. Even better ( and faster ) with E85 !

I think its Bush who is only one in this planet who don't understand the global warming and what is causing it

i do some what agree.............. but i think the real point of this is that the ban is ONLY for competition vehicles. which comprise 1.5% of ALL the leaded fuel used in the country. the ban does not affect the aviation industry or military??? which use the remaining 98.5% of the leaded fuel.
this ban has been going on since 1989 if memory serves and has been extended 4 or 5 times due to public pressure and this is apparently the last extension which will end dec31 this year. then what? it's not like you can just switch to E85, actually i don't think you can even buy it here yet, mind you i drive a diesel so i don't look either.
and what about Americans who want to come to Canada to race (at our local track that is probably 25%)
They will be stopped at the border and turned around because they will have leaded fuel. back in 90 i think it was, there was a NHRA National Event race in Montreal when the first ban was put in and NHRA canceled the race and moved it to Topeka KS and guess what......... even tho the ban was lifted the race never came back.
i know i am probably preaching to the choir here........
i did my part i wrote to my elected official and forwarded the email i got to 50 ppl or so.... an other than that I'm not sure what else one guy can do.

[68protouring454]

Originally Posted by Bowtieracing

I have allways kept canadians smart people. We dont need any more garbage on air or somewhere else. Racers can race with unleaded too. Even better ( and faster ) with E85 !

I think its Bush who is only one in this planet who dont understand the globar warming and what is causing it

if you really think this is causing global warming, you need to walk to work.
global warming is an agenda, period.

[1Michel]

Well I think it's all the dinausore's fault!
From what I hear the car and trucks exhaust are somewhat responsible for the "global warming"
Then if our SUV's and stuff are responsible... then the dino's must have had some really big SUV! because again from what I hear (I wasn't there then) most of the earth was covered with ice and melted!
oh well.

[chicane]

The majority of professional motorsports, with the exception of some fuel classes, have been unleaded for quite some time.

Getting rid of leaded fuels isnt a bad thing... as the formulation of mixed fuels have come a long way in the past 10 or so years. Unless you are running 25+ pounds of boost... you actual motor octane numbers dont require lead and the other reasons for a leaded additive are falling to the wayside as well.

[Blake Foster]

Originally Posted by chicane

The majority of professional motorsports, with the exception of some fuel classes, have been unleaded for quite some time.

Getting rid of leaded fuels isnt a bad thing... as the formulation of mixed fuels have come a long way in the past 10 or so years. Unless you are running 25+ pounds of boost... you actual motor octane numbers dont require lead and the other reasons for a leaded additive are falling to the wayside as well.

Just for fun i checked VP Trick and Torco Fuels
VP leaded 38 different fuels
unleaded 16
Trick leaded 2
un 1
Torco Leaded 12
un 2
So I would say that the majority of professional motorsports are not using unleaded, and really the "Professionals" make up such a small % of the racing population any way,
I don't know for sure but I would BET 0 Prostock teams use unleaded
I also don't think that the fuel companies push or educate customers on unleaded........ apparently it is more costly to produce and if the US isn't banning it then why would the fuel makers care???

[chicane]

Well... just because fuel production companies still make leaded... doesnt mean that they are going to make any less because of unleaded racing fuel use. They make it... and they will continue to make it. But it doesnt mean that there isnt a push for all classes to go unleaded...

Professional motorsports. Yeah its a kind of broad statement... but, specifically in respect for VP... their A5, A7, Ultimate, CSP and M7 fuels are all unleaded. The FIA 2000 certification standards cover more professional classes than that of all NHRA, IHRA and IHBA combined... times 2. None the less... the push for unleaded fuels in motorsports will pretty much be the standard by 2010.

Besides... real motorsports are defined by FIA rules and standards. World reconized motorsports are more stringent than that of local bodies.

The opinion that you point out about the "Professionals" making up a small percentage of the population still doesnt answer the fact that they use 700% more fuel than that of the non-professional. NASCAR alone (Nextel, Bush, Lights, West, etc etc) make that number just by themselves... and BTW... Sonoco 260 is unleaded. They also supply over 80% of the fuel used racetracks in the United States.

A half season in NHRA doesnt use near the fuel as in one Super Speedway race of NASCAR. So no... they truely are considered as the smallest majority in professional motorsports and the EPA isnt going after them just because of that one simple fact.

[Beegs]

Originally Posted by Bowtieracing

I think its Bush who is only one in this planet who dont understand the globar warming and what is causing it

LMAO.... I'm guessing you are 15 to 17 years old.