who gets credit?

[bill amsley]

if an artist draws a car, and someone else builds it who gets credit for the design? i see a lot of cars w/artist renderings i always wonder who to toast the artist or the builder?

[ccracin]

I think you have to toast both. I can only speak for my situation. The artist we are working with is extremely talented not only at design, but listening as well. (Ben Hermance) The reason I say both is he truly uses what the customer likes/wants (listening) and puts that together along with his touches to come up with a final product. So in alot of cases it is a team effort. I am sure there are times when someone say here's the car I have, go to it. Ben also does cars on his own. You can see some on this sight. These designs are his alone, but thay all have to be built. You then have to look at execution of the design. This is a team effort as well. A builder can only truly reproduce the design if they are talented enough and if the design is capable of being built. Alot can be put on paper that will be dang near impossible to make work in the real world. So in the end for a complete car, rendering to finished piece I think it is truly a team effort. JMO

By the way I used Ben as an example because we are working with him. All the artists on this board are extremely talented. Maybe some of them will give you some input.

Later,

[Flash]

I have seen many different versions of who gets the credit. If Chip Foose draws the car he gets the credit but I have seen a car drawn by Chip after the car was in full bare metal, who gets the credit then? The builder or the artist? Ten points is you can name the car in question. I don't believe in a credit as to who owns the rights to the car by just drawing something, but then again I'm just a photographer.

[Steve1968LS2]

Just because an artist did a rendering doesn't mean they designed the car. They could have just followed the styling cues of the car's owner.

However, if the artist did design the car then they should get the credit. Or at least share the credit.

[ProdigyCustoms]

Steve is exactly correct. Very rarely does a artist doing my rendering do the design. Most times when I contact a artist, I / my customer have a clear vision of what we / he wants and I beat on the artist until I get it, LOL! This is not to say I do not listen to the artist input. I may tell the artist to give me some different ideas for a graphic, color combos, after I give my own ideas, then look at their twist on the idea. But I would not consider that "designing" if I use ideas from the artist either.

With that said, I am not oppsed to building something of the artist design, I just have not had the situation / customer to allow it to happen yet. But I have seen quite a few designs I would love to build, Just need to find the right customer!

[Spiffav8]

I get the credit, but only when things go wrong....oh wait that's called blame.

[Vegas69]

I had my rendering done to reinforce my vision for the car. That said, now that the car is mostly done exterior wise, I already plan to make a tweak from the rendering.

[mlomaka]

So far, I haven't done a whole lot of renderings, but so far mine have been a colaborative effort. Someone comes to me with an idea, be it how ever specific, but there are usually some holes in it somewhere. My first big project I got after it was already started. The shop knew what they wanted to do with the body. The customer couldn't visualize what the mods would look like, but he knew what motor and suspension he wanted. I helped pull all the ideas together so the customer could make the final decision on direction. I had input on a lot of areas, but that part was mostly already decided on. The interior on the other hand, no one had really thought about. I have also done some paint combos and top colors which vary from "I want this" to "what would you do". In the end, I think it should be a colaborative effort. The artist should listen to the owner and work off their ideas, but really help develope it and get everyone on the same page. I might change, but so far I am not looking for credit, I am just just thankful to be part of the process.

[ironworks]

Does it matter?

The artist is usually the guy who puts everyone on the same map visually and puts in his 2 cents. The builders attempts to make the car look as similar to the rendering depending on the customers budget. The customer OK's and pays for all the work.

The owner paid the bill so he gets the credit. None of it would happen without the CASH. So the owner gets the credit.

Rodger

[kennyd]

the owner .