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Old 06-23-2011, 04:48 PM
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I am getting closer to ripping off my quarters. I am a little nervous about doing it for the first time.
I'm wondering if anyone has done this themselves and can provide pictures and any special hints or tips on what to, or not to do. I will also be replacing the full tail panel and roof.
I will not do it all at once, I need to keep some of the factory panels in place while the one next to it is located correctly. I dont have a body cart or chassis jig to work with.

Any help is greatly appreciated.
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Old 06-23-2011, 04:58 PM
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I'm sure glad you're in this stage of your build, you keep asking all the questions for me
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Old 06-23-2011, 06:03 PM
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I'm sure glad you're in this stage of your build, you keep asking all the questions for me
Lol! I remember your post about full vs partial quarters. Im about to jump in feet first with mine. I am hoping it goes ok. Ill keep my build thread updated when it all starts.
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I am getting closer to ripping off my quarters. I am a little nervous about doing it for the first time.
I'm wondering if anyone has done this themselves and can provide pictures and any special hints or tips on what to, or not to do. I will also be replacing the full tail panel and roof.
I will not do it all at once, I need to keep some of the factory panels in place while the one next to it is located correctly. I dont have a body cart or chassis jig to work with.

Any help is greatly appreciated.
I would like to know also.

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Old 09-13-2011, 03:12 PM
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Any of you experienced fellas have any tips for us? I'm looking for all the tips I can get
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Old 09-13-2011, 08:12 PM
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Hey Matt
I have been following along as Nick car is getting done in the Camaro Performers articles. There is some good tips there. And also over on NastyZ28.com are a few threads that documented this very well. Look up Parker here and over there. His build thread on nasty covers new skin on pretty much the whole car. Super nice guy too. He has answered several questions for me in the past.

As you do yours try to document it here in your thread. This site could use all the second gen info we can get. I will try to do the same thing when I start in a couple weeks.
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Old 09-15-2011, 10:21 AM
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Eric, thanks for the kind words, I enjoy helping where I can.

As far as qaurter panels go, I only had to do those on my grey car since the new car had good metal. If you look in my build thread for Fool's Gold you will find some tips on the roof skin. Hit me up when you get ready to remove yours and I'll try to add a few more.

The repop roof skins may be different now. On mine, when we welded it in place it all looked good. During the mock-up and pre-fit I decided to pull the old glass from a rusty parts car I had to check gaps and fit. It's a good thing I did because when we layed the rear glass in it turned out that the skin was almost an inch too short in the rear window area. I cut the window lip from the parts car and we fabbed the rear edge to fit correctly to the glass which was a factory piece. Good idea to save the old roof for this and check your rear window fit and gaps after install or during.

The last time I used a repop tail panel was in 2006 when I was building the grey car. Unless they have improved they fit terrible in several ways. Compare the tail light mounting studs with your original, The repo units aren't in the proper place. Also where the deck lid meets the tail panel the repops seem to have a swag on each side from the latch to where they meet the qaurter. You pretty much have to work with what you can get unless they have improved over the last few years. I tried 3 different ones from three different suppliers and all of them had the same issues.

The repop full qaurters fit well and only need slight tweaking while fitting and installing. I used Goodmark brand on the grey car in '06. These should be no problem other than a lot of labor.

Be careful if you need to replace the decklid. The early models have a slight radius on the corners where they meet the tail panel. Later models were sqaure edged and so are repops. The later models didn't need the clearance at the edge due to large plastic tail lights. If you use the sqaure edge decklid on an early car it has a tendency to chip the paint badly on the tail panel at the corner area, don't ask how I know this little tidbit, as I learned it too late on the grey car. You can radius the corners correctly on the repops and others if need be before paint.

Repop front fenders are hit and miss regardless of brand. Most of the left fenders are good and require minimal tweaking. The right side fenders are the screw up. The area where the fender meets the door and windshield area is usually too tall and has to be sectioned along with a fair amount of fitting and tweaking. That's why we just repaired the lower sections of the factory fenders on Fool's Gold.

The repop flat hoods are fairly good and only require minimal work for hood to fender gaps.

Repop door skins are notorious for being just a little small. You have absolutely no extra metal to play with and they are usually short hieght wise at the rear, requiring a welded build up to have a proper gap. This is best done after re-fitting the door on the car to get proper gaps as the repop tapers at the rear. So once you have skinned the door, mount it before doing final body work or you'll be sadly surprised with the lower rear gap.

Thats about it for my sheetmetal info.
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Old 09-15-2011, 12:29 PM
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Thanks a lot Tommy. I will be in touch for sure. I am doing every bit of metal you just mentioned. On the roof, there is now a complete roof structure available. Including A pillars, inner support and outer skin with window channels all assembled. I may go that route. I think it would be best to do that while my factory quarters are still in place to locate it correctly.
I have two sets of original genders to work with. I sold the repops. I also have two original deck lids, two sets of doors too.
My tail panel is a early troop and I am using AMDs new cowl hood.
I hope that with the parts I have rounded up things will go fairly smooth. Like you said, lots of labor. Oh, I am using Classic industries full quarters because they include the full door jamb, rear glass and trunk channels and the radiused area of the rocker/jamb junction.
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I was able to keep the factory qaurters on the gold car. If I were going to change both the roof and qaurters, I would definetly do the roof first. If need be you can trim the upper connection point of the qaurters to help facilitate the roof swap.

Unless your A-Pillars are damaged or rotted i would suggest the skin. Even if it's a little short, changing the skin is easier than the entire roof structure. If you change the whole structure, be sure to use plenty of welded bracing to ensure the structure retains it's correct form and demensions.
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you guys kick ass, thanks for all the tips and ideas. I know who I'll be quizzing if I run into problems

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