...

Go Back   Lateral-g Forums > Technical Discussions > Transmission and Rear End
User Name
Password



Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 05-17-2022, 06:25 PM
DRJDVM's '69's Avatar
DRJDVM's '69 DRJDVM's '69 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Manteca, CA
Posts: 1,299
Thanks: 2
Thanked 48 Times in 26 Posts
Default TO bearing issue

I swear to God my car is cursed....and people wonder why it's taken me so long to build my Cuda. I've had the transmission in/out going on 4 times now

The latest issue.... took the car to a local car show. Long line to get in so it was stop and go for a good 1/3 mile. By the time I got in, there was smoke under the car and it smelled like clutch.... bad..... couldn't really find the source but I thought I had overheated the clutch with stop and go.... its only got about 125 miles on a new McLeod twin disk. Got it parked and just hung out for the day. On leaving everything felt fine.... no more smoke, seemed to drive ok too.

Got the car home and next day got in up in air and there was fluid all over the bellhousing and the clutch master was down a good 3/4 inch. Looks like the TO puked fluid out the bell and the header, thus creating the smoke and smell.

So somehow I caused the TO to puke fluid... all I can think of is that I either didn't set the clutch pedal stop right and over extended the pedal a bunch of times in the stop and go traffic and blew the seal..... or I screwed up the TO to clutch air gap and over extended the bearing in some way.....

I must have checked both of those like 100 times.... but thats the only things I can think of to make a TO puke fluid

So.... all apart AGAIN.... TO bearing doesn't look jacked up ....Craig at Bowler had me send it back so they can inspect and rebuild

Clutch has some hot spots on the pressure plate so that's on the way back to McLeod to see if I ruined my $800 new clutch or it can be salvaged. Figured the hot spots are from the clutch slipping when the TO gave up and then wasn't fully releasing the disk

Any other ideas on how a TO would puke fluid? The lines are fine... so signs it rubbed a hole etc, so it must have come from the piston seal

This car has fought me this entire build.....
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 05-17-2022, 08:20 PM
camcojb's Avatar
camcojb camcojb is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Wilton, CA.
Posts: 12,897
Thanks: 5,494
Thanked 1,589 Times in 712 Posts
Default

A friend had a similar issue, and it turned out to be the T/O bearing fluid line was close to the headers, and was overheating the fluid. He re-routed the line and never had the issue again.
__________________
Jody

PAST CAR PROJECTS

Like Lateral-G on Facebook!

Follow Lateral-G on Instagram!

SPECIAL THANKS TO:
Jacob Ehlers and Amsoil for the lubricants and degreasers for my 70 Chevelle project
Shannon at Modo Innovations for the cool billet DBW bracket
Roadster Shop for their Chevelle SPEC Chassis
Dakota Digital for their Chevelle HDX Gauge Package
Painless Performance for their wiring harness

Ron Davis Radiators for their radiator and fan assembly.
Baer Brakes for their front and rear brakes

Texas Speed and Performance for their 427 LS Stroker
American Powertrain for their ProFit Magnum T56 kit
Currie Enterprises for their 9" Third Member
Forgeline for their GF3 Wheels
McLeod Racing for their RXT street twin clutch
Ididit for their steering column
Holley for their EFI and engine parts
Lokar and Clayton Machine for their pedals and door and window handles
Morris Classic Concepts for their 3 point belts and side mirrors
Thermotec for their heat sleeve and sound deadening products
Restomod Air for their Tru Mod A/C kit
Mightymouse Solutions for their catch can
Magnaflow for their 3" exhaust system
Aeromotive for their dual Phantom fuel system
Vintage Air for their new Mid Mount LS front drive
Hydratech Braking for their hydroboost system
Borgeson for their stainless steering shaft and u joints
Eddie Motorsports for their hood and trunk hinges and misc parts
TMI Products for their seats, door panels, and dash pad
Rock Valley Antique Auto Parts for their stainless fuel tank
Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to camcojb For This Useful Post:
ADY (05-17-2022)
  #3  
Old 05-17-2022, 11:15 PM
DRJDVM's '69's Avatar
DRJDVM's '69 DRJDVM's '69 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Manteca, CA
Posts: 1,299
Thanks: 2
Thanked 48 Times in 26 Posts
Default

My lines are pretty far away from any heat source. I have them zip tied pretty good but I'll keep that in mind when I put it all back together to be sure
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 05-20-2022, 09:41 AM
Vegas69's Avatar
Vegas69 Vegas69 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 8,692
Thanks: 86
Thanked 214 Times in 120 Posts
Default

It seems like it could be heat related due to the heak soak you likely experienced. If it was me, I'd consider having another set of eyes look things over before it goes back together. You have to be missing something.
__________________
Todd
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 05-20-2022, 11:20 PM
DRJDVM's '69's Avatar
DRJDVM's '69 DRJDVM's '69 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Manteca, CA
Posts: 1,299
Thanks: 2
Thanked 48 Times in 26 Posts
Default

TO bearing was checked by Bowler and nothing obvious on the seal. Rebuilt it anyway since I'm 99% sure the fluid puked from there

McLeod looked at clutch and the disks were fried, and mid plate warped. I have a feeling that happened after the TO died on me and the disk wasn't fully releasing when the clutch was depressed, so it was slipping like crazy and torched the disk. The clutch is rebuilt and on the way back to me

Its got to be the throw on the pedal.....
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 05-21-2022, 12:14 AM
camcojb's Avatar
camcojb camcojb is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Wilton, CA.
Posts: 12,897
Thanks: 5,494
Thanked 1,589 Times in 712 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by DRJDVM's '69 View Post

Its got to be the throw on the pedal.....
Good thought.
__________________
Jody

PAST CAR PROJECTS

Like Lateral-G on Facebook!

Follow Lateral-G on Instagram!

SPECIAL THANKS TO:
Jacob Ehlers and Amsoil for the lubricants and degreasers for my 70 Chevelle project
Shannon at Modo Innovations for the cool billet DBW bracket
Roadster Shop for their Chevelle SPEC Chassis
Dakota Digital for their Chevelle HDX Gauge Package
Painless Performance for their wiring harness

Ron Davis Radiators for their radiator and fan assembly.
Baer Brakes for their front and rear brakes

Texas Speed and Performance for their 427 LS Stroker
American Powertrain for their ProFit Magnum T56 kit
Currie Enterprises for their 9" Third Member
Forgeline for their GF3 Wheels
McLeod Racing for their RXT street twin clutch
Ididit for their steering column
Holley for their EFI and engine parts
Lokar and Clayton Machine for their pedals and door and window handles
Morris Classic Concepts for their 3 point belts and side mirrors
Thermotec for their heat sleeve and sound deadening products
Restomod Air for their Tru Mod A/C kit
Mightymouse Solutions for their catch can
Magnaflow for their 3" exhaust system
Aeromotive for their dual Phantom fuel system
Vintage Air for their new Mid Mount LS front drive
Hydratech Braking for their hydroboost system
Borgeson for their stainless steering shaft and u joints
Eddie Motorsports for their hood and trunk hinges and misc parts
TMI Products for their seats, door panels, and dash pad
Rock Valley Antique Auto Parts for their stainless fuel tank
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:20 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Copyright Lateral-g.net